Author Topic: Harrow, code 33E bus gate, Camrose Avenue eastbound – entered from service road  (Read 21 times)

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Council: London Borough of Harrow
Contravention: 33E – using a route restricted to certain vehicles (buses, cycles and taxis only)
Location: Camrose Avenue, Edgware – eastbound bus gate just west of Dale Avenue
Date/time: 23/08/2026 at 21:25 (dark)
Date of notice: 28/08/2026. Discount deadline 10/09/2026.

What happened
I was driving east along the residential service road that runs parallel to Camrose Avenue on its north side, behind the grass verge opposite Shaldon Road and Dale Avenue (the service road is also named Camrose Avenue). At the eastern end of the service road I stopped at the give-way line and turned left onto the main carriageway to head east. The nearside lane I turned into is the eastbound bus gate.

From the give-way line to the blue roundel signs at the gate is about five car lengths – roughly 20–25 metres. There is no sign at, facing, or visible from the service road exit saying there is a bus gate ahead or that traffic joining must move to the offside lane. The first time you can see the signs is once you're already on the main road completing the turn. All of Harrow's advance signage and the curved arrows are on the main carriageway before the service road exit, so I never passed any of them.

No car or bus ahead of me, road dry, after dark. I'm not local and hadn't driven this road before.

Evidence so far
Harrow's CCTV video (viewed on their website, screen-recorded) shows my car coming out of the service road and continuing through the gate. I'll upload it. I've emailed Harrow for the disc copy and asked in writing whether the £80 is re-offered if representations are rejected – no reply yet. I've read the busgates.uk pages on this location (eastbound approach and traffic orders).

Photos of the PCN, front and back, below. Street View of the service road exit and the gate: https://maps.app.goo.gl/xqkToHwJu5quQZdLA is the street view of the exit I was taking a left onto the main road.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ai2YACg3K3XByg7W7 is the street view of the gate I entered after I turned left.


https://imgpile.com/m/dCsjL9Y

Questions...

Is "inadequate signage for traffic joining from the service road" a case worth fighting, or should I take the £80?

Does Harrow re-offer the discount after a rejection at this location? ( the reason why I’m asking is because on their website it says the following. “ If we reject your challenge, you must pay the full fee” so I’m not sure if that means I will get the 50% discount)

[Nothing sent to Harrow yet.]
« Last Edit: September 04, 2026, 08:36:05 pm by jj.audi »

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If you submit your representations within the discount period, Harrow normally re-offer the discount.

You do have a case of inadequate signage, so I suggest you emphasise that the restriction came as a complete surprise as you turned left giving you no distance to alter course to the correct lane. Councils have a duty under Regulation 18 (1)(a) of The Local Authorities’ Traffic Orders (Procedure) (England and Wales) Regulations 1996 to erect signage that adequately conveys the restriction to motorists.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1996/2489/regulation/18