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Hello guys again unfortunately got stung again by yellow box junction on Christmas eve when visiting family. Looks like don't stand any chance but trying my luck to see if anyone can come up with anything to fight this PCN.
Here is the pictures link

https://ibb.co/wgXPmNw
https://ibb.co/f4hv9rf

Video link

https://1drv.ms/v/c/4fdadd7ae67b3626/ERBv59y2j49BtEex69hokKQB4nm99c0TuTu5_Ip0rdTeYA
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looks like a slam dunk unless there's paperwork issues
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Quote from: mickR on January 03, 2025, 11:51:24 pm
looks like a slam dunk unless there's paperwork issues

Thanks for yoir comment. That's what it looks like will see what others have to say as it's still have 50% discount until 16th Jan.
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Quote from: mickR on January 03, 2025, 11:51:24 pm
looks like a slam dunk unless there's paperwork issues
Looks the same to me too.

There may be mismanagement by Redbridge of the enforcement process so wait and see what others say. There have been serious issues with council on-line representations pages, but adjudicators are divided on this, so until they convene a panel to make a decision, it's not a guaranteed win yet.
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Quote from: Incandescent on January 04, 2025, 01:22:20 am
Quote from: mickR on January 03, 2025, 11:51:24 pm
looks like a slam dunk unless there's paperwork issues
Looks the same to me too.

There may be mismanagement by Redbridge of the enforcement process so wait and see what others say. There have been serious issues with council on-line representations pages, but adjudicators are divided on this, so until they convene a panel to make a decision, it's not a guaranteed win yet.

Thanks for your comment. Will see what other says if I need to make representation  and what shall I give in a reasons might be useful.
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I have made representation as per instructed by
@MrChips
Which states following

I make this collateral challenge against the PCN:

 

Your website fetters discretion by making me tick boxes of many grounds which may well apply in terms of mitigation.
Also it contradicts the law and the PCN  by telling me to select one main reason. Therefore, this causes confusion.

Will see what council have to say now.
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Are you sure that was me?
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Quote from: MrChips on January 14, 2025, 10:44:35 pm
Are you sure that was me?

Oh my bad and I apologise @MrChips

It was @Hippocrates

Lol I forgot the screen names please accept my apology 🙏

Hope you doing good as you already here what your thoughts on the case. You have been very helpful in other case aswell which I am thankful for.
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No problem, just keen that the right person is credited.  I recognised those appeal points as Hippocrates' work straight away!

Can't see anything to go on with the video so you'd need Redbridge to mess up with process/paperwork.

One argument not raised yet is the vague location stated in the PCN.  Ilford Lane is a mile long with numerous junctions, none of which have a box junction marked on Google maps (so they must be quite new).  How are you meant to know where the contravention is alleged to have occurred?  Could be one of around 30 different junctions.
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Recieved the replay from Redbridge council and as usual they rejected.
@MrChips
@Incandescent
@mickR
@Hippocrates
Anyone can find any paperwork/working issue where I can goto tribunal and chances to win

https://ibb.co/jWCbWQX
https://ibb.co/X7cs9st
https://ibb.co/XJt51fH
https://ibb.co/WKHJ23K
https://ibb.co/fkzxVn3
https://ibb.co/Nyq3NWC
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I see mine and another initial response described it as a slam-dunk case in favour of the council, and I see no reason to change that. They have re-offered the discount, and their response seems to be in order,  so it is your decision whether to pay it, or register an appeal at London Tribunals with the full PCN penalty in play.

Sometimes the skill and diligence of our "ferrets" is not enough to overturn a PCN !!
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Quote from: Incandescent on January 21, 2025, 10:35:06 pm
I see mine and another initial response described it as a slam-dunk case in favour of the council, and I see no reason to change that. They have re-offered the discount, and their response seems to be in order,  so it is your decision whether to pay it, or register an appeal at London Tribunals with the full PCN penalty in play.

Sometimes the skill and diligence of our "ferrets" is not enough to overturn a PCN !!
Thank you for your response.
I have until 31st January to pay discounted pcn. So looks like paying discounted price will be wise decision unless someone come up with stronger arguments to go to tribunal.
Thanks Again
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