Author Topic: London Borough of Hammersmith & Fulham - 14 PCNs (Code 85) - Sulivan Court - Continuous Contravention Ignored  (Read 6727 times)

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Council: London Borough of Hammersmith & Fulham Contravention: Code 85 - Parked without a valid virtual permit Location: Sulivan Court - Off Street VRM: GL67UOH PCN Numbers: HZ79713051 (and 13 others, see below)

Story: Hi everyone,

I am seeking advice regarding 14 PCNs issued to my vehicle between 01/12/2025 and 24/12/2025.

I have held a resident permit since 2021. My permit expired, and due to missing the reminder (or not receiving one), I did not renew it immediately. During this 3-week period, my vehicle was parked in the same bay in the estate car park (Sulivan Court) and was not moved at any point. I was away for my Christmas holidays.

I submitted an informal challenge covering all PCNs arguing Continuous Contravention, citing that this was a single administrative error and the vehicle remained stationary.

I have now received a rejection letter (dated 22/01/2026) which lists all 14 PCNs and demands £1,680.00. The rejection appears to be a standard template; it states that the permit was invalid but completely fails to address the "Continuous Contravention" argument I raised.

I am planning to wait for the Notice to Owner to make a formal representation on the grounds of Procedural Impropriety (Failure to Consider) and Continuous Contravention, but I wanted to run this past the experts here first.

Documents:

Dropbox Link to rejection to my informal challenge and all PCN charges
Link to one PCN image
Google Street View Location:
Image Screenshot 2026 01 23 at 11.43.16 hosted in Freeimage.host
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Unfortunately there isn't a proper street view in that specific street.

Any advice on my next steps or specific wording for the formal representation would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

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This is predatory by H&F.

The sign shows it is 24/7 so must be a continuous contravention, which they have not addressed.

Is there a car park terms board?









« Last Edit: January 23, 2026, 11:13:52 am by stamfordman »

Venal, rapacious, and ruthless. Your typical London council ! It's up there with the people who caused the Post Office scandal isn't it ?

Try getting it into the national press, but after an appeal at London Tribunals.

Just to add - they have fettered their discretion badly by saying unable to consider cancellation as the permit was not reactivated til later and that as the CEO had a 'legal obligation' to issue multiple PCNs they have no valid reason to cancel any.

An authority always has a duty to consider representations and always has the power to cancel.

One point - when you did reactivate the permit did you have the choice to renew it from the expiry date?


That point about Fettered Discretion is excellent, I completely missed that. Their wording "unable to consider" and claiming a "legal obligation" to issue the PCNs does seem to completely shut down their own power to use common sense. I will definitely include this as a third ground in my Formal Representation (alongside Continuous Contravention and Failure to Consider).

To answer your questions:
1. terms board:
I need to double-check this. I will go down to the estate entrance/car park later today to see if there is a main "Terms and Conditions" board separate from the bay suspension/permit signs. If I find one, I will upload a photo.

2. Permit renewal:
When I renewed on 29/12/2025, it started from that date.  I was not offered the choice to backdate the permit to the original expiry date to "fill the gap." It just started a new 12-month period from the day of payment. Does this difference impact the "Continuous Contravention" argument?

More in general, do you think the 3 grounds identified above should be the main ones to be used in the Formal Representation?

I am currently waiting for the NTOs to arrive (none have landed yet).

Unusual of this council to be so difficult, they cancel lots of first time moving traffic PCNs.

The OP should note that tribunal decisions are not precedents but are legally persuasive. I have lost a collateral challenge argument with a new adjudicator but the argument usually prevails.

There is an interesting difference as against on street resident permits. Guidance from London Councils is that a lower rate PCN should be given for recently expired permits. No such code exists for off street contraventions.

We need to be sure the restriction is 24 hours a day so I have emailed the council for the traffic order. If the order is 24 hours a day then I agree this is a continuous contravention. If it isn't the council have failed to accurately sign the restriction which would be a procedural impropriety. I note that the restriction is signed as applying on bank holidays (as not excluded). (added: The London Gazette suggests this isn't a 24/7 restriction but Monday - Saturday 9am to 5pm)

I agree with the publicity point. Councils hate being in the papers as bad news so I wouldn't wait. I would also ask your councillor to intervene, they can't order cancellations but any normal person would see this situation as excessive. The council should have towed you on day 3 which would have stopped the penalties (but run up storage fees).

Mr Teper took a robust approach to a council pursuing excessive penalties, he asked them some hard questions and then struck them out (he used to be a judge and doesn't mess about). I blogged about the case:
  Of a morning Mr Mustard makes himself a proper cup of tea, using leaves, and settles down to a quick perusal of the tribunal register for ...
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I had a 30+ PCN battle last year. Mr Aslangul made the first decision in 2250042965 before all of the cases got amalgamated. You can look it up on the tribunal register but a key extract is:

I am unable to be satisfied that the authority has exercised its positive duty in relation to penalties in a fair and consistent way by pursuing a charge when it is inappropriate to do so in the light of a total potential liability of £4,550.00 in penalty charges.

I then appeared in person in front of Mr Houghton and he allowed c. 75% of the remaining Appeals in decision 2250027972 and others (the PCNs had not all progressed in unison so multiple Appeals were started at different times, unravelling the mess took me c. 100 hours). The relevant extract is:

Mr Aslangul's decision is not binding on me but it is very persuasive, and I entirely agree with the approach taken, which was to allow the Appeal on the grounds of a breach of the public law duty of fairness. If this were a parking case an Adjudicator would have no power to allow an appeal on such a basis, the limit of Adjudicators powers being to consider whether the Council’s actions fall within the definition of a procedural impropriety. However in moving traffic cases (where no such ground of appeal is available) I consider, as Mr Aslangul clearly did, that it remains open to an Adjudicator to allow an appeal on the basis of a collateral challenge on the grounds of a breach of the public law duty of fairness . As my learned colleague, the Chief Adjudicator Mr Chan, stated in Guarunteed Cleaning Ltd -v- Transport for London (2240546521):-

"None of these changes" (referring to the legislation providing for procedural impropriety as a ground of appeal) "apply to PCNs issued under the London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003. It must therefore follow, or at least there is a strong argument, that the Adjudicator retains the power to hear a collateral challenge against a PCN issued under the 2003 Act. In other words, for cases to be decided under the 1993 Regulations, the adjudicator has the power to determine a collateral challenge See R v the Parking Adjudicator ex parte Bexley, CO- 1616-96."

It is the case that, looked at as individual cases, the Council has acted lawfully and within its powers. However it seems to me that it is entirely artificial in this situation to consider the trees but not the whole wood. There is some force in Mr Dishman's submission that "The purpose of this restriction is not to revenue raise from residents who live within the school street, but to prevent the road past the school being used as a 'rat run' during the school arrival and departure times. The EA have not properly turned their mind to the question of proportionality for what is in essence an administrative question, they have looked with a narrow viewpoint purely as to whether or not a contravention occurred"

The Appellant cannot be said to have been entirely without fault. He should have understood the meaning of the signs and got himself a permit. He was under a legal duty to ensure that the vehicle was registered at the correct address. He could not complain about having to pay a penalty, or even a few, for his error.

That said, however, the amount due is well in excess of any fine that would be reasonably expected in a Magistrates court for far more serious motoring offences such as driving without insurance, and far in excess of a fines that would have been imposed for this sort of offence in the days when they were criminal offences ( where a series of offences would normally be dealt with their being taken into consideration when sentencing for a single matter) . I also regard it as extremely relevant that the Appellant was actually entitled to a permit as a resident and indeed now has one. These cases are therefore effectively no more than a continuing failure to possess the necessary paperwork ( or its virtual equivalent). As Mr Dishman puts it, he is guilty only of an administrative oversight I do not believe it can possibly have been Parliament’s intention to fine a motorist £4500 in these circumstances, a sum which is wholly disproportionate to the error made.

The Regulations state that an Adjudicator may make such an order as he sees fit. The order I see fit to make and which in my view meets the justice of the case is is to allow the Appeals in the case of those PCNs which never reached him in time for him to obtain the permit, but refuse the Appeals in the case of those PCNs which were sent to his actual address at Crescent Road. Although Mr Aslangul's decision allowing the Appeal was in fact in respect of such a case it seems to me in the case of the latter group the Appellant is in the same position as any other motorist finding out for the first time that he has been contravening in error, and there seems to me no good reason why the Council cannot enforce these PCNs at the full rate. To that extent therefore I do not consider my decision inconsistent with that of my learned colleague, who of course was not seized of the entirety of the matter.


Please can the OP show us last year's permit reminder and the documents he received after renewing it so we can see what they say in case they damn the council.

Thanks to another expert whose permit expired and for which he got one PCN which I have challenged I have thought to look at the council website which says they will send a reminder, not that they may send one and there is no warning, apart from saying it is the resident's responsibility to renew I read that as meaning once told you need to.
https://www.lbhf.gov.uk/parking/parking-permits/residents-parking-permit/renew-your-parking-permit

In the case I am challenging I wrote this:

The point of the residents parking bays is to protect residents not to penalise them.

The council will doubtless claim that the reminder system they have introduced is a courtesy and there is no legal requirement to provide it. However, in reminders sent to me about my own vehicle there is no warning that the council accept no liability for any future failing that they may have nor that the public should not rely on a system the council have set up which was presumably for the very purpose helping residents. If the public should not rely on the council they should be honest about it and tell them not to rely on the council system which really should be a foolproof one so the best and simplest solution. The public should be told to set their own calendar reminder. It would of course be ludicrous to replace one council system with tens of thousands of individual reminders.


If your car is leased or provided as part of a salary sacrifice scheme we need to make sure the provider does not pay any Notices to Owner. Please confirm OP that the vehicle is registered with DVLA to you at Sullivan Court.

(Don't fret about exactly what to write at the next stage, most experts are too busy to work ahead of time and we need all the facts before we do decide on the best strategy).
« Last Edit: January 25, 2026, 09:19:15 am by mrmustard »
I am currently too busy working to take on any except the most unreasonable PCNs.

I help you pro bono (for free). I now ask that a £40 donation is made to the North London Hospice before I take over your case. I have an 85% success rate across 2,000 PCNs but some PCNs can't be beaten and I will tell you if your case looks hopeless before asking you to donate.

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If this were a parking case an Adjudicator would have no power to allow an appeal on such a basis, the limit of Adjudicators powers being to consider whether the Council’s actions fall within the definition of a procedural impropriety
It seems to me, that the adjudicator has misinformed himself, because the statutory grounds of "the penalty exceeded the relevant amount in the circumstances of the case" still applies in the TMA 2004, and this was the ground used to bring a collateral appeal argument under the 1991 legislation.

This is just an observation on my part,

The letter which lists out all 14 PCNs, has a total of £1600, yet the total stated by the council is £1680.

Where did the extra £80 come from or am I missing something?

The council have been very efficient in providing me with the traffic order.
It is here
The document outlines the Traffic Management Order No. 1210 for the Hammersmith and Fulham (Sulivan Court Estate)(Off Street Car Park) Order 2016, which was made on May 24, 2016, and came into oper...
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Look at apge 5. The bay hours are Monday to saturday, 9am to 5pm (excluding Public & Bank Holidays).

The signs therefore are not correct (the sign board might be) and that is probably now the ebst line of defence as the council has a legal duty to erect and maintain accurate signage.

If I drove into that estate to park of an evening, I would drive out again as I have been misinformed that parking is restricted at say, 7pm.
I am currently too busy working to take on any except the most unreasonable PCNs.

I help you pro bono (for free). I now ask that a £40 donation is made to the North London Hospice before I take over your case. I have an 85% success rate across 2,000 PCNs but some PCNs can't be beaten and I will tell you if your case looks hopeless before asking you to donate.

Hi team,
I have uploaded the photos from my site visit to the Dropbox folder.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/i6ujm493mx79cc3ys3nyj/ABY5jDGiEyxOy9SxznW7DEU?rlkey=vfzxkzla44bc4hs01xoct31bi&st=4h7ya4ml&dl=0

I captured the signs throughout the surrounding area, but most importantly, I found the large main sign at the entrance that clearly states the parking rules as you enter the estate.

Let me know if you need any further details.

This sign we would expect at the entrance of an on-street permit parking area.


Thanks for your support so far!

I've uploaded on my Dropbox the renewal reminder emails that I received in the past few years - I only received permit reminders, I can't find any "confirmation of purchase" from the system in my emails.

I can also confirm that the vehicle is owned by me.

I will write to my local councillor as suggested to put pressure on the council regarding the excessive number of PCNs.. Thank you!



Hi everyone,

I have amazing news to share.

Following the advice given here (specifically by mrmustard in Reply #5), I wrote to a Councillor on 27 January regarding the excessive number of PCNs issued while I was away.

My email was passed on to Parking Services to investigate. I received a response from the Parking Manager stating that, while the PCNs were issued correctly, they were willing to offer a "gesture of goodwill".

They offered to accept payment for one PCN (£80) in settlement and agreed to cancel the remaining 13 PCNs.

I accepted this offer immediately and paid the £80. I have now received written confirmation from the Council that the payment has been received and all 14 cases are now officially closed.

A huge thank you to everyone for your advice and support, especially for the tip to contact the Councillor. You have helped me save a huge amount of money.

That is a sensible outcome, well done Hammersmith & Fulham and your councillor.
I am currently too busy working to take on any except the most unreasonable PCNs.

I help you pro bono (for free). I now ask that a £40 donation is made to the North London Hospice before I take over your case. I have an 85% success rate across 2,000 PCNs but some PCNs can't be beaten and I will tell you if your case looks hopeless before asking you to donate.