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Re: London Borough of Bexley, entering bus/cycle only route, Townley Road roundabout, Bexley.
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Quote from: Hippocrates on September 17, 2025, 01:02:18 pm
@cp8759 @mrmustard

Do paras 43 and 67 still apply?
We'd need a bit more context, how do you think they might apply to the current case?
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Re: London Borough of Bexley, entering bus/cycle only route, Townley Road roundabout, Bexley.
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Quote from: cp8759 on September 18, 2025, 04:18:58 pm
Quote from: Hippocrates on September 17, 2025, 01:02:18 pm
@cp8759 @mrmustard

Do paras 43 and 67 still apply?
We'd need a bit more context, how do you think they might apply to the current case?
@cp8759The juxtaposition of signs which are not allowed? The 953 and the legend? I can't find any other authorities which contradict the said statement at 43.

Judith Tracey at DFT used to be a contact. But, I don't know of any update. This was in pepipoo days. I can't find any exception in the most difficult to access TSRGD 2016.
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Re: London Borough of Bexley, entering bus/cycle only route, Townley Road roundabout, Bexley.
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Quote from: Hippocrates on September 18, 2025, 10:42:20 pm
Quote from: cp8759 on September 18, 2025, 04:18:58 pm
Quote from: Hippocrates on September 17, 2025, 01:02:18 pm
@cp8759 @mrmustard

Do paras 43 and 67 still apply?
We'd need a bit more context, how do you think they might apply to the current case?
@cp8759The juxtaposition of signs which are not allowed? The 953 and the legend? I can't find any other authorities which contradict the said statement at 43.

Judith Tracey at DFT used to be a contact. But, I don't know of any update. This was in pepipoo days. I can't find any exception in the most difficult to access TSRGD 2016.

You'll have to wade your way through the TSRGD 2016, obviously at the time of the judgment the 2016 regs didn't exist, so you can't rely on it.
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Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: London Borough of Bexley, entering bus/cycle only route, Townley Road roundabout, Bexley.
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Thank you gentlemen for your time, much appreciated.
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I need Sherlock Holmes to navigate 2016 TSRGD.
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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