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Lincolnshire County Council (40) Parked in a designated disabled person's parking place without displaying a valid disabled person's badge in the prescribed manner(40) Parked in a designated disabled person's parking place without displaying a valid disabled person's badge in the prescribed manner. Lumley Road Skegness

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I collect eggs for the local food bank and was delayed at the depot. I was running late for my 9am  opticians appointment at Boots - copy of appointment text in photos. Boots opticians is in the Hildreds shopping centre a short walk form the parking bays.
I parked in the disabled bay, put my badge and clock on the dash board.

Arrived in Boots at 9.12 I was too late for the optician to see me. I was given a new appointment see photo of text confirmation received by me at 9.17 I arrived back at my car at 9.22 the enforcement officer had just put the paperwork in the sticky envelope. He told me he didn't have to wait he could issue the ticket immediately as I was in contravention of code 40 etc. I had mistakenly  put 10 o'clock on the clock.

I will appeal as I am not sure how I put 10 o'clock instead of 9 maybe my hand caught the wheel on the clock as I placed it on the dashboard.

Thank you for the opportunity of getting advice

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Penalty Charge Notice Reference: QJ4125144A

Vehicle Registration Number (VRN): FY60AEC

Vehicle Make: Honda

Contravention: (40) Parked in a designated disabled person's parking place without displaying a valid disabled person's badge in the prescribed manner

CEO Number: 472

Car Park / Street Name: Lumley Road, Skegness

Date and time of recorded contravention: 4th March, 2025 at 09:21:03

Date / Time of issued notice: 4th March, 2025 at 09:21:03

https://www.google.com/maps/search/lumley+road+skegnessiew+%C2%B7+Google+Maps/@53.1431431,0.3392451,18z/data=!3m1!4b1?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDMwMi4wIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNDU1SAFQAw%3D%3D

PCN
https://imgur.com/a/oq6PiBP

Boots text appt 4/3/25



Boots text rearranged appt

https://imgur.com/Dj8XPjs


Photos on PCN I did not take any of my own

Photo of dash showing blue badge
https://imgur.com/Ij7rSSg


https://imgur.com/HXZDPFc


Photo of rear of car (and me)

https://imgur.com/PCDhV7R


https://imgur.com/VwRrj2T


Photo of signage

https://imgur.com/stvLiV2


I hope I have posted correctly
« Last Edit: March 05, 2025, 10:15:54 am by AnnePN »

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In what way was the badge not displayed in the prescribed manner?
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Manner in which a badge is to be displayed
12.  For the purposes of section 21(4A) of the 1970 Act a disabled person’s badge is displayed on a vehicle in the prescribed manner if–

(a)the badge is exhibited on the dashboard or facia of the vehicle, or

(b)where the vehicle is not fitted with a dashboard or facia, the badge is exhibited in a conspicuous position on the vehicle,

so that the front of the badge is clearly legible from the outside of the vehicle.
from https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2000/682

Oh, I finally see that you set the clock incorrectly. Sorry.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2025, 10:25:31 am by jfollows »

The clock isn't mandatory in timed disabled bays and most traffic orders don't say it is but even if an order is in place it can still be beaten.

See links in:
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/barking-dagenham-council-code-40-disabled-bay-ticket-no-timer-displayed-clockhou/

Best approach an initial challenge asking first for discretion as there for well less than 2 hours and just noting that the clock isn't necessary.

Post a draft here first.

Thank you for your replies, here is my draft

Dear Lincolnshire County Council,

I parked on a disabled bay and I displayed my valid Blue Badge which is clearly displayed from the windscreen as shown in CEO's photographs.

I am the holder of the blue badge, I was parked for less than 15 minutes from 9.12am to 9.22  I had an appointment at 9am at Boots opticians in the Hildreds Centre Skegness , my journey to the appointment was delayed  because I called at an egg distribution centre to collect eggs for the local food bank on my way to Skegness and there was a problem there.  I arrived on Lumley Road Skegness at 9.12, parked in the disabled parking bay and displayed my blue badge and clock.  I was unable to see the optician and I was given another appointment for Saturday 8 March (photos of text confirmation of appointmentments attached)

I returned to my vehicle to see the CEO placing the PCN on my car, I was shocked as I couldn’t understand why I was getting the PCN he pointed out that the time on my clock was 10 am and it was only 9.22. He had only observed my vehicle for  1 minute before he issued the PCN I arrived as he was placing the paperwork in the sticky envelope.  It would appear that I did not display my parking clock with the arrival time of 9.15am correctly as I was in a rush to attend the appointment. However, according to the Disabled Person’s (Badges for Motor Vehicles) (England) Regulations 2000, using a clock is not a requirement when parking in a disabled bay.

Regulations 11 and 12 of the Disabled Person’s (Badges for Motor Vehicles) (England) Regulations 2000 sets out the requirements for the display of a Blue Badge. There is no reference in the Regulations to a parking clock or disc.

The only reference to a disc or clock is in the Local Authorities Traffic Orders (Exemptions for Disabled Persons) (England) Regulations 2000 where it must be displayed in circumstances where the display of the badge provides an exemption from a yellow line waiting restriction (see Regulation 8 ).

Therefore, no contravention has occured  I request that the PCN be cancelled.

Regards,

I'd change.

PCN *******

I am making representations against this PCN on the grounds that the penalty exceeds the amount applicable in the circumstances of the case. My detailed reasons are set out below, but before going into these I would add by way of background that I parked in the bay, displayed my blue badge and was stationary for less than 30 minutes. I displayed my parking clock out of habit rather than by virtue of any legal obligation.

I understand that the County Council's traffic order requires a parking disc to be displayed in this bay in addition to a blue badge being displayed in the prescribed manner. However, the contravention grounds state that I was parked without displaying a disabled badge in the prescribed manner and do not refer to the parking disc despite this being the only issue between us. What the authority are attempting to do is to broaden the specified contravention grounds which refer only to a Blue Badge to include a parking disc.

This is not lawful because the grounds include two terms defined in legislation, namely disabled badge holder and badge displayed in the prescribed manner, and amending these for the council's own purposes is not permitted. That the TRO requires a parking clock is not at issue, the council's problem is how they may enforce this within the limits set by legislation and the Secretary of State's Statutory Guidance, and using this contravention description is not an option.

In addition, there is no requirement to display a parking clock stated on the traffic sign and this is because the sign used is of the form specified by Ministers in the Traffic Signs etc. Regulations and therefore compliant with the council's LATOR duties. However, for the same reasons as above it does not lie with the council to use this sign to convey a different  bespoke restriction i.e. that because you have placed a time limit on use of the bay this necessarily conveys an additional, non-prescribed, meaning namely that a parking clock must be displayed in the same manner as applies to yellow line waiting restrictions.


Bear in mind this is an informal challenge - I would shorten it no harm done.

You should not have to pay. I suggest including this with HC Andersen's submission.

By issuing a code 40 PCN the penalty charge exceeds the amount applicable in the circumstances. The parking place is a limited waiting parking place albeit that only disabled badge holders can park within it. Due to the parking disc clock time of arrival it would have been appropriate for your CEO to issue a code 30 PCN for being parked for longer than permitted. This contravention is a lower penalty charge of £50.00. The wrong contravention description was used and consequently the council is wrongly seeking £70.00 from me.

There is also an Equality Act issue that the Council has a duty to consider. Regular limited waiting bays don't require the display of a parking disc clock. By making disabled people set and display a clock is treating them different to able bodied people who park in a regular limited waiting bay and it creates a situation where disabled people have a higher chance of making an error such as the clock falling off or being set incorrectly. Timings should be based on CEO observations the same as a regular limited waiting bay. There is no need to give the disabled the extra burden of setting and displaying a clock. I believe that the Council is unlawfully treating disabled people differently from able bodied people and I ask you to reconsider your approach to disabled badge holders only limited waiting parking places.

Important to note here that The Local Authorities' Traffic Orders (Exemptions for Disabled Persons) (England) Regulations 2000 do not apply to parking places reserved for disabled badge holders. Badge holders do not need exemption to park in parking places provided specificly to disabled badge holders.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2025, 01:15:27 am by Phantomcrusader »

Thank you you are amazing!

I was mulling my PCN overnight wondering why is it that all the ‘normal’ 30 minute wait bays did not need to display a clock but disabled drivers in a disabled bay (were under the impression that they) need to.  Note,  it is probably good practise to display a clock to avoid confusions as to where to display

I know it was suggested to minimise my response but I feel that LCC really need to hear all of this.  This is my amended draft I am happy to clip if advised to.

Thank you in advance

Dear Lincolnshire County Council,

I parked on a disabled bay and I displayed my valid Blue Badge which is clearly displayed from the windscreen as shown in CEO's photographs.

I am the holder of the blue badge, I was parked for less than 15 minutes from 9.12am to 9.22  I had an appointment at 9am at Boots opticians in the Hildreds Centre Skegness , my journey to the appointment was delayed  because I called at an egg distribution centre to collect eggs for the local food bank on my way to Skegness and there was a problem there.  I arrived on Lumley Road Skegness at 9.12, parked in the disabled parking bay and displayed my blue badge and clock.  I was unable to see the optician and I was given another appointment for Saturday 8 March (photos of text confirmation of appointmentments attached)

I returned to my vehicle to see the CEO placing the PCN on my car, I was shocked as I couldn’t understand why I was getting the PCN he pointed out that the time on my clock was 10 am and it was only 9.22. He had only observed my vehicle for  1 minute before he issued the PCN I arrived as he was placing the paperwork in the sticky envelope.  It would appear that I did not display my parking clock with the arrival time of 9.15am correctly as I was in a rush to attend the appointment. However, according to the Disabled Person’s (Badges for Motor Vehicles) (England) Regulations 2000, using a clock is not a requirement when parking in a disabled bay.

I am making representations against this PCN on the grounds that the penalty exceeds the amount applicable in the circumstances of the case. My detailed reasons are set out below, but before going into these I would add by way of background that I parked in the bay, displayed my blue badge and was stationary for less than 30 minutes. I displayed my parking clock out of habit rather than by virtue of any legal obligation.

I understand that the County Council's traffic order requires a parking disc to be displayed in this bay in addition to a blue badge being displayed in the prescribed manner. However, the contravention grounds state that I was parked without displaying a disabled badge in the prescribed manner and do not refer to the parking disc despite this being the only issue between us. What the authority are attempting to do is to broaden the specified contravention grounds which refer only to a Blue Badge to include a parking disc.

This is not lawful because the grounds include two terms defined in legislation, namely disabled badge holder and badge displayed in the prescribed manner, and amending these for the council's own purposes is not permitted. That the TRO requires a parking clock is not at issue, the council's problem is how they may enforce this within the limits set by legislation and the Secretary of State's Statutory Guidance, and using this contravention description is not an option.

In addition, there is no requirement to display a parking clock stated on the traffic sign and this is because the sign used is of the form specified by Ministers in the Traffic Signs etc. Regulations and therefore compliant with the council's LATOR duties. However, for the same reasons as above it does not lie with the council to use this sign to convey a different  bespoke restriction i.e. that because you have placed a time limit on use of the bay this necessarily conveys an additional, non-prescribed, meaning namely that a parking clock must be displayed in the same manner as applies to yellow line waiting restrictions.

There is also an Equality Act issue that the Council has a duty to consider. Regular limited waiting bays don't require the display of a parking disc clock. By making disabled people set and display a clock is treating them different to able bodied people who park in a regular limited waiting bay and it creates a situation where disabled people have a higher chance of making an error such as the clock falling off or being set incorrectly. Timings should be based on CEO observations the same as a regular limited waiting bay. There is no need to give the disabled the extra burden of setting and displaying a clock. I believe that the Council is unlawfully treating disabled people differently from able bodied people and I ask you to reconsider your approach to disabled badge holders only limited waiting parking places.


Thank you for your help so far. The challenge has been rejected, please see the details below. I look forward to reading your further advice

Lincolnshire County Council


Dear Mrs

11/03/2025


NOTICE OF REJECTION OF INFORMAL CHALLENGE
The Traffic Management Act 2004; The Civil Enforcement of Road Traffic Contraventions (Approved Devices, Charging Guidelines and General Provisions) (England) Regulations 2022; The Civil Enforcement of Road Traffic Contraventions (Representations and Appeals) (England) Regulations 2022

Penalty Charge Notice Number: QJ4125144A Vehicle Registration Number: FY60AEC Date of Issue: 04/03/2025
Location: Lumley Road, Skegness

Thank you for your challenge, received in respect of the above Penalty Charge Notice. After careful consideration of your informal challenge, I have found no grounds for the cancellation of the charge.
A Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) was issued due to your vehicle being parked in a designated disabled person's parking place without displaying a valid disabled person's badge in the prescribed manner. The Civil Enforcement Officer (CEO) observed your vehicle at 09.20 on 04/03/2025. A disabled badge and time clock were on display; however, the time clock displayed a time later than when your vehicle was observed. No permitted activity was witnessed and as such, a PCN was issued.

I have noted the comments within your challenge, however, not displaying the time clock only applies in car parks where badge holders may park for free and does not apply to on street limited wait disabled bays. The blue badge scheme clearly states this in the booklet received upon getting a blue badge.

Link here,https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-blue-badge-scheme-rights-and-responsibilities-in- england

Ultimately, it is the motorist’s responsibility to ensure that a valid badge and time clock (set to the quarter hour period during which the vehicle arrived) are correctly displayed when parking their vehicle. The officers use this to determine whether the vehicle has overstayed the prescribed limited wait time. When the time is set later than when the officer observes the vehicle it invalidates the blue badge. This is an instantly issued penalty. Therefore, the penalty was issued correctly and remains outstanding.

Lincolnshire County Council PO Box 1329
Lincoln
LN5 5TL
Contact: Notice Processing Phone: 0333 370 5007
 
Additionally, the council do not believe there is an equality act issue to consider. Limited wait bays for non-blue badge holders are also monitored by recording the vehicle registration and tyre valve positions, whereas blue badge holder bays require the time clock to be set when the bay has a limited wait. Unfortunately, these rules are set by central government.
I am able to re-offer the discounted amount of £35.00 if payment is received within 14 days by 25/03/2025 . Please note that the discounted charge will not be available after this date and the original charge of £70.00 will apply if payment is not made in time. Please see below for details of how to pay.

HOW TO PAY
By telephone: 24hr payment line (credit/debit card): 0333 370 4644, select option 1

On the Internet: (credit/debit card): www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/parking
By Post: For postal payment please send to Lincolnshire County Council, PO Box 1329, Lincoln, LN5 5TL. Please ensure that you include the PCN Number with your payment and make your cheque or postal order payable to APCOA Parking UK Ltd. Cheques are banked by APCOA. All penalty charge income is then paid to Lincolnshire County Council in full. If a receipt is required a stamped addressed envelope must be enclosed.

PAYMENT IN FULL WILL CLOSE THE CASE

If you are not satisfied with the decision in this letter and wish to take matters further and make formal representations against the Penalty Charge, please do not make payment, but wait for a “Notice to Owner” which will be sent to the owner/keeper of the vehicle as registered with the DVLA. If you are the driver, but not the owner and wish to make formal representations, you are advised to contact the owner who can respond to the Notice on your behalf.
If representations to the “Notice to Owner” are not accepted, a ‘notice of rejection’ will be sent with details of the appeal procedure. An appeal cannot be made to the Independent Adjudicator until the “Notice to Owner” has been issued and formal representations rejected.
Further details of the appeal procedure can be found at www.lincolnshire.gov.uk or www.trafficpenaltytribunal.gov.uk.


Yours sincerely,
Parking Services Manager Lincolnshire County Council
   
 
 

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My advice was not to go in all guns blazing but start with an honest mistake and gently point out the clock isn't necessary.

Anyway, you have teased out their position which is obviously wrong - "Unfortunately, these rules are set by central government" - is wrong and why they say it's unfortunate is presumably to mean their hands are tied.

As far as I know the blue badge responsibilities are not all reflected in law.

I'll see if I can find their parking places order.
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Your challenge with HC Anderson's text pretty much does the job as per this case:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j3F5-usOqEk4ZeV4WH8vLjOsB6JaMN5G/view

and here's Lincolnshire's TRO in which they say regarding disabled parking places:

The driver of a vehicle shall exhibit a parking disc on the vehicle in the relevant position
and set the disc to indicate a quarter hour period during which the vehicle arrived at the
disabled badge holders only parking place.


They do not define 'prescribed manner' in the preamble (unlike the key case) but do say:

“parking disc” has the same meaning as in the Local Authorities Orders (Exemptions for
Disabled Persons)(England) Regulations 2000 which is capable of showing the quarter
hour period during which a period of parking has begun;

https://tro.trafficpenaltytribunal.gov.uk/TRO/Lincolnshire/QJ01.pdf


and as the adjudicated case says:

The only reference to a disc or clock is in the exemptions regulations which state that
one must be displayed in circumstances where the display of the badge provides an
exemption from a yellow line waiting restriction (see Reg Eight).
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You've established their ignorance, so IMO carry on.
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Thank you.

So I have to wait as per below, Will this mean I have to go to court?

If you are not satisfied with the decision in this letter and wish to take matters further and make formal representations against the Penalty Charge, please do not make payment, but wait for a “Notice to Owner” which will be sent to the owner/keeper of the vehicle as registered with the DVLA. If you are the driver, but not the owner and wish to make formal representations, you are advised to contact the owner who can respond to the Notice on your behalf.
If representations to the “Notice to Owner” are not accepted, a ‘notice of rejection’ will be sent with details of the appeal procedure. An appeal cannot be made to the Independent Adjudicator until the “Notice to Owner” has been issued and formal representations rejected.

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Will this mean I have to go to court?
No, a thousand times No !

The process for civil enforcement of PCNs is a specific process in law, defined, on your PCN by the Traffic Management Act, and associated regulations. There is no court, but there is an adjudication office called the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, that hear appeals against PCNs when all representations against a PCN have been rejected by the issuing council. Virtually all adjudications are by phone or, more recently, by video. There is nothing daunting about it at all.  The legislation deliberately cut-out any involvement by county courts, so there is no possibility AT ALL of a CCJ.

In the most recent letter refusing your informal challenge to the PCN, they point out that if you don't pay, the owner of the vehicle will be served with a Notice to Owner allowing the owner to pay, or submit formal representations. If the council refuse these, then an appeal can be registered at the adjudicators described above.

https://www.trafficpenaltytribunal.gov.uk/
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Thank you. Should I prepare the content of my appeal in readiness?