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Lewisham 31J Southend Lane/Allerton Road
« on: February 02, 2025, 10:02:56 pm »
I’d be grateful for any advice concerning possible grounds to appeal this PCN please

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Re: Lewisham 31J Southend Lane/Allerton Road
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2025, 12:01:48 am »
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Re: Lewisham 31J Southend Lane/Allerton Road
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2025, 10:40:10 pm »
You've got the second street name wrong; it is Allerford Road. No wonder I couldn't find the junction !

I have now seen the video, which shows you driving with no hesitation whatsoever into the box, then the vehicle in front stops just beyond the box thus forcing you to stop in it. This is the exact circumstance the statute is designed to prevent. So on the basis of the video, the contravention is made out.

Quite what you could put into any representations, I don't know, hopefully others on here can suggest something. It may be they will suggest a 'technical' appeal unrelated to the contravention itself. These can, and do, win appeals on their own.but are only considered properly at London Tribunals.

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Re: Lewisham 31J Southend Lane/Allerton Road
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2025, 07:51:16 pm »
Thanks & sorry for the mistake about the road name, I appreciate your input

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Re: Lewisham 31J Southend Lane/Allerton Road
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2025, 08:50:52 pm »
You've got the second street name wrong; it is Allerford Road. No wonder I couldn't find the junction !

I have now seen the video, which shows you driving with no hesitation whatsoever into the box, then the vehicle in front stops just beyond the box thus forcing you to stop in it. This is the exact circumstance the statute is designed to prevent. So on the basis of the video, the contravention is made out.

Quite what you could put into any representations, I don't know, hopefully others on here can suggest something. It may be they will suggest a 'technical' appeal unrelated to the contravention itself. These can, and do, win appeals on their own.but are only considered properly at London Tribunals.
I will draft something. I have a big scrap tomorrow with them.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2025, 08:54:42 pm by Hippocrates »
How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

URGENT!

PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION TO EQUATE MOVING TRAFFIC LAW WITH BUS LANE LAW SO LONDON COUNCILS MUST ATTEND HEARINGS WHEN REQUIRED BY THE APPELLANT. 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/701491

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/petition-to-align-the-llaa-2003-to-the-llaa-1996-(right-to-x-council-witnesses)/msg56899/#msg56899

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Re: Lewisham 31J Southend Lane/Allerton Road
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2025, 07:11:27 am »
Thanks for the offer Hippocrates, hope you got on well in the big scrap with Lewisham!

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Re: Lewisham 31J Southend Lane/Allerton Road
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2025, 11:34:50 am »
Thanks for the offer Hippocrates, hope you got on well in the big scrap with Lewisham!

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/lewisham-53j-pedestrian-zone-restriction-bellingham-road-junction-with-longhill-/msg56859/#msg56859

Please can I have the PCN and VRM details so I can get started on your case?
How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

URGENT!

PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION TO EQUATE MOVING TRAFFIC LAW WITH BUS LANE LAW SO LONDON COUNCILS MUST ATTEND HEARINGS WHEN REQUIRED BY THE APPELLANT. 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/701491

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/petition-to-align-the-llaa-2003-to-the-llaa-1996-(right-to-x-council-witnesses)/msg56899/#msg56899

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Re: Lewisham 31J Southend Lane/Allerton Road
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2025, 07:37:38 pm »

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Re: Lewisham 31J Southend Lane/Allerton Road
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2025, 07:49:18 pm »
What is the date of the PCN please?
How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

URGENT!

PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION TO EQUATE MOVING TRAFFIC LAW WITH BUS LANE LAW SO LONDON COUNCILS MUST ATTEND HEARINGS WHEN REQUIRED BY THE APPELLANT. 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/701491

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/petition-to-align-the-llaa-2003-to-the-llaa-1996-(right-to-x-council-witnesses)/msg56899/#msg56899

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Re: Lewisham 31J Southend Lane/Allerton Road
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2025, 10:39:32 pm »
Notice dated 24th January

Alleged contravention 18th January

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Re: Lewisham 31J Southend Lane/Allerton Road
« Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 10:32:00 am »
I make a collateral challenge against the wording of the PCN which "acts as notice to owner" which, in turn,  is a conflation of two legislations and, considering the inclusion of a considerable part re 56 days etc - this belongs to parking legislation - it is perfectly reasonable to expect you to include the grounds of appeal from that legislation in addition. I have attempted to reconcile this conflation to no avail as, very simply, this PCN is invalid in my view. 

Furthermore, your nomenclature also describes it as PCN/Notice to Owner et al.

In light of the above, please cancel.


Choose: no contravention.
« Last Edit: Yesterday at 10:50:59 am by Hippocrates »
How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

URGENT!

PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION TO EQUATE MOVING TRAFFIC LAW WITH BUS LANE LAW SO LONDON COUNCILS MUST ATTEND HEARINGS WHEN REQUIRED BY THE APPELLANT. 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/701491

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/petition-to-align-the-llaa-2003-to-the-llaa-1996-(right-to-x-council-witnesses)/msg56899/#msg56899

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Re: Lewisham 31J Southend Lane/Allerton Road
« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 08:14:45 pm »


Great thanks, have submitted the appeal as suggested

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Re: Lewisham 31J Southend Lane/Allerton Road
« Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 09:33:44 pm »


Great thanks, have submitted the appeal as suggested
5Please keep an eye on their website regularly.
How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

URGENT!

PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION TO EQUATE MOVING TRAFFIC LAW WITH BUS LANE LAW SO LONDON COUNCILS MUST ATTEND HEARINGS WHEN REQUIRED BY THE APPELLANT. 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/701491

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/petition-to-align-the-llaa-2003-to-the-llaa-1996-(right-to-x-council-witnesses)/msg56899/#msg56899