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Hi all,

CONTEXT
I have a parking PCN from Islington Council. The incident was in August 2024. I never received the original PCN and as such did not get a chance to pay at the discounted rate. The car is a company car. I appealed the NTO in my name. Islington rejected the appeal stating that it has to come from the registered keeper. I was away when this reply came and arrived back to a Charge Certificate.

QUESTION
I've waited for the amount to go up so I could submit a witness statement but I'm confused as to what form I need and what the process is. I've never had to do this for a London Borough. I have two questions:

1) Which form do I need for a London parking ticket - PE3 or TE9? I believe I am still 'in time'
2) Do I need to do a statutory declaration at a court or do I just fill the form out and email it to TEC?

Some guidance on filling the form out would also be great - who is the applicant, me or the council?

If I have missed a central guide on CCs and forms please let me know - I had a search and couldn't find anything.

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Who is the registered keeper - they had to make reps to the NTO. Who is the charge certificate addressed to.

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Hi, apologies I didn't update this. The car is registered to my company. I was the driver. My TE9 has been successful - I had a small snag where I used the forms from the gov.uk website and TEC rejected saying it was the wrong one. They supplied one. I filled that one out with a TE7 saying it is now out of time due to this issue.

I received a letter yesterday on 04.02.2025 dated 27.01.2025 that the TEC has revoked the recovery order and charge certificate. The Islington portal is still showing the PCN at £130. Should I contact them to confirm that it has cancelled or will the system automatically update? If I am able to pay the PCN at the original discounted rate I will happily settle it immediately.

TIA

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Please show us all of the TEC letter. Just redact yr name & address.

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I received a letter yesterday on 04.02.2025 dated 27.01.2025 that the TEC has revoked the recovery order and charge certificate.


Which of the witness statement grounds did you claim? Do you have a copy?

When you say 'I', you mean 'my company'? You cannot have a PCN in your name.

And when you refer to 'my company' you own or are a director or similar of the company and authorised to act on their behalf?


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Hi, apologies I didn't update this. The car is registered to my company.My TE9 has been successful
I filled that one out with a TE7 saying it is now out of time due to this issue.

I received a letter yesterday on 04.02.2025 dated 27.01.2025 that the TEC has revoked the recovery order and charge certificate. The Islington portal is still showing the PCN at £130. Should I contact them to confirm that it has cancelled or will the system automatically update? If I am able to pay the PCN at the original discounted rate I will happily settle it immediately.

TIA

Very confusing post indeed. On the one hand, you state that after submitting the correct forms that TEC responded to inform you that your application is now 'out of time' You then state that in fact, TEC issued a letter dated 27th January ACCEPTING your application.

What happened after TEC informed you that your TE9 was 'out of time'?

PS: You don't need to do anything at the moment. Islington should contact you. It may take a couple of weeks.

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Looks to me like you had no grounds to file a witness statement so hopefully you'll get a chance to settle it at discount.

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I received a letter yesterday on 04.02.2025 dated 27.01.2025 that the TEC has revoked the recovery order and charge certificate.


Which of the witness statement grounds did you claim? Do you have a copy?

When you say 'I', you mean 'my company'? You cannot have a PCN in your name.

And when you refer to 'my company' you own or are a director or similar of the company and authorised to act on their behalf?

The car is registered to a company that I own, that I am the director of. I was driving it at the time. I received an NTO relating to a PCN that I did not see and therefore did not have the opportunity to respond to. I mistakenly appealed the NTO (requesting to pay at discounted rate) in my name as opposed to stating I was authorised to speak on behalf of the registered keeper.

Islington rejected these reps because they were in my name and not the registered keepers (the company).

I was away when these representations were sent and arrived back to a Charge Certificate.

I then submitted an in-time TE9 on the grounds that the registered keeper did not receive the original PCN.

TEC rejected this stating it was the wrong TE9 form. At this point the application was out of time.

I then submitted the correct TE9 form (supplied by TEC) stating that the RK did not receive the original PCN, alongside a TE7 explaining that the application is out of time owing to this mistake and the delay in TEC responding to me.

TEC accepted this and sent me a letter stating the charge certificate has been revoked.

The Islington portal has now updated and shows the PCN at NTO stage. I am now going to appeal again, as someone authorised to speak for the registered keeper, to ask if I can pay at the original discounted rate.

Hope that clarifies things. The original PCN has been issued bang to rights - I overstayed in a marked and signed pay and display bay by about 20 minutes, as shown in the photos. I just wish to pay it at the original discounted rate, which is what I would have done had I seen it in the first place.
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