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Lambeth, Salter's Hill, code 37j Failing to give way to oncoming vehicles
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Hi all,

I have received a PCN dated 27/05/24 from Lambeth Council for no give way on Salter's Hill bridge to oncoming vehicle to which I appealed which got rejected and received an appeal refusal letter dated 05/07/2024. I wanted to check if there is any point in appealing to tribunal or not. If yes, on what grounds? I have attached redacted PCN and appeal letter as well link to the video

Photos link:
https://imgur.com/a/En6YgRM

Video link:
https://imgur.com/a/5amKHcy
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Re: Lambeth, Salter's Hill, code 37j Failing to give way to oncoming vehicles
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Looking at the video at first glance, I think you were maybe pushing it a bit, but the key fact from the video is that the approaching vehicle has not yet entered the restricted zone when you pass. This is what the approaching vehicle would have seen: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/1ufFgGDX1vAsBVVa7

For me, the contravention did not occur because the approaching vehicle had not yet passed this sign. The sign indicates where the priority starts.  However see what the others say.

We see this location quite a lot on this forum so it must be a "nice little earner" for Lambeth Council.
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Re: Lambeth, Salter's Hill, code 37j Failing to give way to oncoming vehicles
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Thanks for you comments. I would appreciate opinion from others as well, if anyone else has seen and dealt with similar cases before?
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Re: Lambeth, Salter's Hill, code 37j Failing to give way to oncoming vehicles
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search salters hill you will find A LOT of threads. one just recently as well
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Re: Lambeth, Salter's Hill, code 37j Failing to give way to oncoming vehicles
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Let's see your reps pl.

You have until the 23rd to decide whether to appeal or accept their offer of the discount sum.

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Re: Lambeth, Salter's Hill, code 37j Failing to give way to oncoming vehicles
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There is no offer for discount. Council has already increased the charge to £130.
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There is no offer for discount. Council has already increased the charge to £130.

Where did it say they have already increased it to £130? In their rejection letter, dated 5/07/24, they re-offer the discount for 14 days beginning with the date of service of the letter.
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Re: Lambeth, Salter's Hill, code 37j Failing to give way to oncoming vehicles
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+1.

The offer is in their NOR, I suggest you read this.

You can pay the discount of £65. You have 14 days from the date of this letter being served to do this.


Date of letter Friday 5 July. Therefore date of service is Tuesday 9 July, 14 days from which is 23 July.

They cannot renege/resile/backtrack on this offer, it's against the law.

The question is how could this be exploited.

Others will comment.
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Re: Lambeth, Salter's Hill, code 37j Failing to give way to oncoming vehicles
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It’s appearing on the Lambeth council PCN payment link. When I click on it, It automatically shows £130 outstanding
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Re: Lambeth, Salter's Hill, code 37j Failing to give way to oncoming vehicles
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Please see below link to snapshot of the wording stated on Lambeth PCN view link. It states amount will increase to £195 on 23rd July. I am surprised by this given I am still under 14 days discount period. Can this be used as an argument as well for tribunal appeal?

 I would appreciate if I can get some guidance on what can be the grounds to appeal to tribunal based on the video link, photos and below link to Lambeth PCN view.

Lambeth website PCN view link:
https://imgur.com/a/ZnIoD8O

PCN Photos link:
https://imgur.com/a/En6YgRM

Video link:
https://imgur.com/a/5amKHcy
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Re: Lambeth, Salter's Hill, code 37j Failing to give way to oncoming vehicles
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Quote from: Ujk on July 20, 2024, 10:26:13 pm
Please see below link to snapshot of the wording stated on Lambeth PCN view link. It states amount will increase to £195 on 23rd July. I am surprised by this given I am still under 14 days discount period. Can this be used as an argument as well for tribunal appeal?

 I would appreciate if I can get some guidance on what can be the grounds to appeal to tribunal based on the video link, photos and below link to Lambeth PCN view.

Lambeth website PCN view link:
https://imgur.com/a/ZnIoD8O

PCN Photos link:
https://imgur.com/a/En6YgRM

Video link:
https://imgur.com/a/5amKHcy

Hi All,

I have time till tomorrow, I would really appreciate expert advise on the grounds for tribunal appeal based on my case above.
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Re: Lambeth, Salter's Hill, code 37j Failing to give way to oncoming vehicles
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would this not be PI?
they offer discount till 23rd but already ask for 130 and threatening 190 on the 23rd??
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Could you please clarify what does PI means?
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Re: Lambeth, Salter's Hill, code 37j Failing to give way to oncoming vehicles
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"procedural impropriety"

a ground for appeal
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Thanks MickR for clarification. Will that be enough as a ground for tribunal appeal?
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