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Lambeth PCN 52m Tulsemere Road
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Don't have much defence for the fact I drove through here but suspect the dates of increased charges may be wrong if anyone could clarify:

https://imgur.com/a/W4LELWg
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anyone?
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Quote from: gge12 on December 12, 2024, 12:06:35 pm
anyone?
So which dates do you think are wrong, because there are no dates which I can see apart from the PCN date and date of alleged contravention ?

Anyway, here is the controlling legislation under which the PCN has been issued, so have a read
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/2003/3/contents/enacted
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Thanks, in the fifth and final picture I uploaded there is a screenshot from the Lambeth website which states that I have until Dec 29th to pay the discounted rate.
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Please show the screenshot. I won a case on this a few months ago for a fellow member.
« Last Edit: December 12, 2024, 09:02:07 pm by Hippocrates »
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

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https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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Quote from: gge12 on December 12, 2024, 08:14:55 pm
Thanks, in the fifth and final picture I uploaded there is a screenshot from the Lambeth website which states that I have until Dec 29th to pay the discounted rate.
Ah, right, an error on their website, so carry on with your case ! If anybody can win this for you it'll be Hippocrates.  I suspect when they see him on the case their hearts (of stone) get even heavier !
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There is a discrepancy between what is stated on the PCN I received in the post and and what is stated online. According to the letter, I have 14 days from the date of the notice (02.12.24) to pay the discounted rate of £65. Furthermore, the penalty charge must be paid before the end of the period of 28 days from this date. This suggests that after 14 days you pay the full charge of £130 but either way you must pay before the period of 28 days. It does not state which, if any, penalties exist for not paying during this time frame.

When you view the PCN on Lambeth's website, it says The amount outstanding on the Charge Notice will increase to £130.00 on Sun, 29 Dec 2024. Please pay £65.00 now. This is different as it suggests you have 28 days to pay the discounted rate and an undeterminable period in which to pay the full charge. This is confusing and misleading, especially as the PCN letter directs you to the website to view, challenge or pay the charge.
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Or is this standard practice across all the London boroughs?
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The amount outstanding on the Charge Notice will increase to £130.00 on Sun, 29 Dec 2024.

"will" is a clear fettering of discretion.

as Incandescent says, @Hippocrates delights in these cases.
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Quote from: gge12 on December 14, 2024, 09:48:57 am
Or is this standard practice across all the London boroughs?
No it is not. Your comments re the dates are in general ok. But:

1. 14 days discount starts with the date so expired on 4th December.

2. They can only serve a charge certificate 28 days from the date of service ( 25th November) = 22nd December.

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Choose penalty exceeded amount and put this in a pdf.

Dear Lambeth

Please cancel the PCN as your website is not fit for purpose due to the clear disconnects between the law and what is stated therein. All your dates are wrong in terms of payment and the enclosed screenshot is an example of bullying.

In light of this collateral challenge, the PCN must be cancelled. It is incumbent upon an authority to give clear and precise states re payments etc and these must be according to the statutory process.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2024, 08:30:07 pm by Hippocrates »
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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Thank you, however the date of the notice was definitely December 2nd:
https://imgur.com/a/W4LELWg

Have now submitted reps as advised above.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2024, 09:01:23 pm by gge12 »
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Update. Despite having submitted representation, I am still being urged to 'pay £65 now'!
https://imgur.com/a/MulNUXM
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Quote from: gge12 on December 14, 2024, 09:40:50 pm
Update. Despite having submitted representation, I am still being urged to 'pay £65 now'!
https://imgur.com/a/MulNUXM

Urged? Threatened rather. Save it for later.
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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Hi again, are Lambeth allowed to still request payment when representation has been submitted?

After initially being warned that I had until Dec 29th to pay the discounted rate, I am now being told it will increase to the higher rate 'very soon' despite still not receiving a response to my representation submitted nearly a month ago!

https://imgur.com/a/Y9IcR3i
« Last Edit: January 06, 2025, 02:18:37 pm by gge12 »
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