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Dear all, received the above PCN yesterday next to Brockwell Park. I tried to read the traffic order sign but couldn't make any sense out of it and saw the big yellow 'permit holders only' sign on the other side of the road so didn't think there was any issue with parking there.

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The main sign shows permit holders 'HR'. The event days sign just says "permit holders only', the assumption being that the main sign governs the permit code.

So assuming you parked on the side for permit holders, are you an 'HR' permit holder ?

As regards the traffic order sign, this is just advice. To implement it, they must erect adequate signage that informs the motorist what the restrictions are.  It would seem they have done this, but wait for others to comment.

I can't see the sign you took a pic of creates a waiting restriction - the contravention you have is an 01 (like for a yellow line).



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Council pics show no sign.






Just to clarify, the yellow 'permit holders only' sign was on the other side of the road to where I was parked. I am not a resident permit holder. I merely highlighted that because I thought that was the only temporary restriction in place on the road, which is why I parked on the opposite side. The signs on the side I was parked on are the white paper ones which I could not make sense of.

Yes I saw it wasn't on your side but there are probably signs elsewhere.

But I don't think there is a sign that substantiates the contravention. See what others say.

Nothing to do with the traffic sign per se, whether on your side of the road or not. It's a 'temporary traffic order' contravention i.e. the laminated paper you see on the post is a copy of a temporary traffic order suspending the use of the bay or part thereof and substituting a waiting restriction which does not need a yellow line.

OP, we need to see that order - a readable photo pl. Or get a copy from the council. Maybe there's one online.

The pictures of the notice I took at the time are in my original post Imgur link and they are barely legible, hence my confusion. If you notice, the back of the order is obscured by the cable tie that attaches it to the lamppost and it's not even laminated. Feels to me like it's been scribbled on the back of a fag packet which is why I think I have a case here. Loads of people were caught out and we park in this same location most Sundays and had no idea.

Managed to find the order on Lambeth's website:

https://www.lambeth.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2025-05/597_Brockwell_Park_2025_NoM_09-05-25.pdf
« Last Edit: June 02, 2025, 07:26:10 pm by gge12 »

Thanks for the order.

And were you in the 'banned' area in Schedule 1?

The sign regarding 'permit holders only' is, of course, b******s. The order BANS waiting, it does not differentiate between classes of user.

Pl post a GSV showing where you were parked. Let's take this apart bit by bit.

Yes, having been able to actually read the order retrospectively online, I was in Schedule 1.

GSV: https://maps.app.goo.gl/24bnY5W99sqdHKk19?g_st=ac

Your photo of the 'event day' yellow sign is confusing matters because it's on the other side of the road.

The CEO's photos don't show a traffic sign, only an illegible laminated single sheet of A4 attached to a post, in this case the only post within the parking bay.

Any chance of getting a photo of the sign in your bay(including the laminated sheet in the same shot?). I ask because, as a minimum, it had to be covered because you cannot have the lawful right to park in a parking place suspended by order and replaced with a 'No waiting' restriction while still exhibiting the normal parking place traffic sign.

There's also the Temp Traffic Order regs to look at, but one step at a time. The 14-day period ends on 14 June...on which point, pl post the back of the PCN.

Ok thanks. Disregard the event day sign on the other side of the road. I am going to visit the location later and try and get a picture of the normal traffic sign with the (non)laminated traffic sign in the shot. I'm pretty sure the normal sign wasn't covered.

I'm pretty sure the normal sign wasn't covered.

So am I !

There may not be anything to see as this is a one day measure for events at Brockwell Park but there are other events coming up.

Maybe I'm missing something but shouldn't there be a no waiting roundel sign to enforce a no waiting restriction. 

No, but this is part of the 'bit by bit' analysis which I'm recommending the OP follows.


https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1992/1215/schedule/made  -see the Schedule, Part III. 7(a) and 7(b) replicate LATOR, whereas 7(c) stands on its own:

(c)in a case where the instrument contains provisions suspending statutory provisions to which section 14(7) of the 1984 Act applies[which does], such removal, replacement or covering up of existing traffic signs as the authority may consider requisite for the purpose of avoiding confusion to the users of the road.

As I thought, signs were not covered:


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