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Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
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In was only dissing their manager the other day with a councillor! Yet another council who love to hate me.  ::)
« Last Edit: January 02, 2026, 12:52:25 pm by Hippocrates »
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Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
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Quote from: Pauldon3576 on January 02, 2026, 12:45:32 pm
Should i add this too into my representation? Or save it for later...?

The latter.
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If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
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Thank you Sir, I will prepare my response and launch it back to RBK. Will keep you posted on the outcome!
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Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
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It's a parking not a moving traffic contravention.

I don't think the length of the stop is a goer.

Hippo did you get a pic of the sign?
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Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
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Quote from: stamfordman on January 02, 2026, 01:41:44 pm

Hippo did you get a pic of the sign?

Nope as I drove past it twice. I may take a picture tonight. But the XX is not there. It fits at least 3 buses I reckon.

The camera issue must be considered. The last two cases I did  they referred to a bus lane.
« Last Edit: January 02, 2026, 02:32:47 pm by Hippocrates »
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If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
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Hi Hippocrates, should I hold off with my representation? I can take a trip and go and take pictures if need be?
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Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
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Quote from: Pauldon3576 on January 02, 2026, 02:44:00 pm
Hi Hippocrates, should I hold off with my representation? I can take a trip and go and take pictures if need be?

|If you wish and can. I did go into 3 yellow box junctions too in the hope they may send me a PCN!
« Last Edit: January 02, 2026, 09:38:38 pm by Hippocrates »
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If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
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Hi Hippocrates, you are tempting fate there!

It's interesting on google maps, the age difference with pictures....
see here...all from google...
https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/r6UgR1L_xl.jpg
https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/HTw46kx_xl.jpg
https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/cs1l0zF_xl.jpg




Are you referring to the no loading sign that does not have the XX?

I will make a trip later and get some pictures, in the meanwhile i will hold off sending the respresentation
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Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
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Hi Again Hippocrates & Stamfordman,

I've made a trip today to get some photos of the signs and location.....on foot this time!

Please let me know your thoughts on the signs & if I should proceed.

The long shot of the bus top also shows just the one streetlight which made any sign visibility at night poor, but unsure if this is arguable evidence.

Many Thanks in advance.

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https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/M6Y1WLr_xl.jpg
https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/Oe2Y0eW_xl.jpg
https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/3wJB3Ek_xl.jpg


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Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
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As I said. I'll take a picture in the evening.
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If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
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Ok, Thank you. I'll sit tight until then.
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Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
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There may be a charge for this. One Leffe at the near hostelry from which I am yet to be barred.  8)
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If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
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Quote from: Hippocrates on January 04, 2026, 07:11:41 pm
As I said. I'll take a picture in the evening.

Sorry for lateness but it is freezing! May be tonight. But do not miss deadline. It's not that the urgent - the photo.
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If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Kingston Upon Thames PCN 47j Stopped on a restricted bus stop Location – Clarence Street
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Thanks Hippocrates, it's not the best weather for a night venture!

I'll make the representation now.
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I almost went there! Got as far as Waitrose Surbiton. Didn't fancy the bus.
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If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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