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Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
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Good morning, I have just received another rejection and would like to post it, but imgur doesn’t seem to be available anymore. What else can I use instead?

As Imgur is no longer available in the UK, you will need to use
ibb.co or https://imgpile.com/

for posting images.

Wherever possible, use the BBCode

Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
« Reply #46 on: »
Put the rejection on https://imgbb.com

Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
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Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
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Is that it in its entirety?

There's so much wrong and omitted I'm flabbergasted, although it is Kingston so maybe I shouldn't be.

And the one which really gets me is that there is no such person as PARKING SERVICES authorised under the council's Officer Scheme of Delegation made under the council's Constitution to consider formal representations. So, would you pl write back to the Head of Parking Services and require them to inform you who considered and authorised the reply to your representations, an establishment post number would suffice if they want to maintain anonymity, and confirm, by including the relevant copy of the Officer Scheme of Delegation that this officer is authorised to act on behalf of the council to discharge the authority's duties as specified under Regulation 6 of The Civil Enforcement of Road Traffic Contraventions (Representations and Appeals) (England) Regulations 2022.

Councils and authorities aren't tangible e.g. they cannot write letters etc. They must act through officers and those officers need to be authorised to act on behalf of the council in capacities specified by reference to legislation.

Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
« Reply #49 on: »
You've left your name and address on so have blanked them.

They've ignored the practical details with the baby and really should fail on lack of duty to consider.


« Last Edit: October 14, 2025, 06:03:46 pm by stamfordman »

Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
« Reply #50 on: »
An indecipherable employee working from home or employee of a contractor? There's no reference to anyone other than the council.

IMO, still require the info but modify the context i.e. the signature is unreadable and does not state that they are working on behalf of RBK but sign themselves as 'Authorised officer'. You require evidence that whoever is duly authorised as required by Regulation 6 etc.....

Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
« Reply #51 on: »
Matthew Hill is head of Place and Gareth Campbell is head of parking. APCOA is the contractor. Loch Ness monster spews out the paperwork as in this case.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
« Reply #52 on: »
Thank you, all. I posted in a hurry as was leaving house. Please could anyone explain what is the next step, is that realistically achievable to get a cancellation? How far my fine can go from that point if I continue to challenge?

Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
« Reply #53 on: »
1. They have not re-offered the discount, therefore you're on the hook for the full penalty.

2. You register your appeal. Simply follow the instructions and register. You rely upon your formal representations and procedural improprieties arising from the Notice of Rejection. You do not need to go into detail at this stage.

The letter is signed by someone or something, it's indecipherable. It says:

*******
Kingston Parking Services

Which means that they are employed by Kingston Parking Services, not ***** on behalf of.

Not only are there issues regarding authorisation as regards officers, this also applies from the Secretary of State's Statutory Guidance:

 The process of considering challenges, representations and defence of appeals is a legal process that requires officers dealing with these aspects to be trained in the relevant legislation and how to apply it. They should be well versed in the collection, interpretation and consideration of the evidence, writing clear but concise case-specific responses to challenges, enquiries and representations, presenting the authority’s case to adjudicators.

 Formal representations

Many enforcement authorities contract out on-street and car park enforcement and the consideration of informal representations. Enforcement authorities should not contract out the consideration of formal representations. Enforcement authorities remain responsible for the whole process, whether they contract out part of it or not, and should ensure that a sufficient number of suitably trained and authorised officers are available to decide representations of their merits in a timely and professional manner.

The authority’s standing orders should be specific as to which officers have the authority to cancel penalty charge notices. There should also be a clear audit trail of decisions taken with reasons for those decisions


Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
« Reply #54 on: »
Thank you, all. I posted in a hurry as was leaving house. Please could anyone explain what is the next step, is that realistically achievable to get a cancellation? How far my fine can go from that point if I continue to challenge?
I had already emailed you the next step. As HCA has now said too. I'll assist when you are back.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
« Reply #55 on: »
Hi all, I am back home now. Please advise on how to appeal at this stage. Thanks

Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
« Reply #56 on: »
I'll email you my phone number now.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
« Reply #57 on: »
I will file the appeal later today.

It's time councils pay back parking charges if people pay and then  get a ticket! I'll get this sorted too - globally.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2025, 05:45:27 pm by Hippocrates »
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
« Reply #58 on: »
Hi, thank you for the draft. Please could hippocrat look into this as NTO was issued on 9 September? Can anyone tag him? Thank you.
Just got your e mail.

RBK's website is annoying as the photos appear for a split second. NTO is OK. Go with stamfordman's draft.

I took a look yesterday. Can anyone post ALL the photos as their site is still playing up?
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
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