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hi all,
Completely new here and desperate for help/advice about PCNs we keep receiving from Islington Council Parking and how to deal with it.
Basically, it i to do with my (now) wife's Vespa motorbike that was parked on the usual Resident/Pay and Display motorbike parking bay in our local street. The council sent an email on 27 June that her resident parking is about to expire in 4 weeks. My wife missed this email as we were getting married the following day, 28th June. On 30th June we left for our honeymoon overseas, where we stayed until 31st August. Of course, while we were away, the resident parking permit expired. Upon returning to the UK, we found the motorbike missing and a letter saying that it has been impounded. We paid £750 to get it released, which included the compound cost, the last issued PCN, and storage costs. However, a couple of days after the release, we got another 9 PCNs. This means the total cost will be almost £2,000.... We don't have this kind of money anyway, but just wondering if there is ANYTHING we can do. We appealed for all the PCNs and also applied for refund for the compund costs, citing special circumstances, and that of course, if we were in the country, we would have acted quickly to pay the first PCN and also the expired resident parking permit. We got a response from the council yesterday that all appeals have been rejected.
Do we have a legal leg to stand on or shoud we just get a loan and pay for all the PCNs? We are so, so deflated and dissapointed with this - somehow, councils are super quick and eficient to act with punitive measure for normal residents and when we actually need help from the police (e.g., when our car and motorbike were vandalised recently), no help is given.
Thank you in advance for any advice!

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Re: Keep receiving PCNs after we paid for vehicle release from compound centre
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Please post up a list of all the PCNs and Notices to Owner that you received. Include the PCN number, the date of contravention and the date of the NTO where applicable. And please identify the PCN that you paid at the impound yard.

What's the reg number?
« Last Edit: September 25, 2025, 09:03:40 pm by Enceladus »
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We also need the representations you made and their rejection(s).

The first thought is they had the remedy to impound rather than issue multiple PCNs.

And targeting a resident like this is not on.
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The usual venal and rapacious Islington council ! Have they re-offered the discount, because if they haven't it is a total no brainer to take them to London Tribunals on the basis of continuing contravention, and disproportionate penalty.

In parallel to this, I would contact your local councillor on this one, as somebody in the council is clearly acting in a very heavy handed and heartless way and needs "educating" that his salary depends on residents paying council tax, and that he is not a Gauleiter.
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Please post up a list of all the PCNs and Notices to Owner that you received. Include the PCN number, the date of contravention and the date of the NTO where applicable. And please identify the PCN that you paid at the impound yard.
Here are the PCNs:

IZ35674631
IZ36214193
IZ36321091
IZ36323268
IZ36398868
IZ36399292
IZ36478209
IZ36500090
IZ36596679

All images/appeal and rejection evidence is here, I hope it works!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1l5kZtxCpxg0KuxuOGAlNkdIyox8p5XT0


Not sure which one we paid at the impaund centre as we were so stressed out and tired after our tirp back to the UK.

What's the reg number? Thank you! here is the reg: LX10 DZE



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The PCN that was paid at the impound centre is: IZ36596679

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This is the rejection letter from the council:

Dear Miss Maively Sulli
Penalty Charge Notice No. IZ36214193 Date of Issue 11/08/2025 at 12:38 Penalty Charge Notice No. IZ36399292 Date of Issue 18/08/2025 at 16:35 Location of Contravention Florence Street [Zone E]

Thank you for contacting us about the above Penalty Charge Notices (PCNs).Our records show that you have already challenged the PCN and that we have rejected your challenge on 19 September 2025.You made further points in your correspondence of 22 September 2025, indicating that thePCNs were issued for a continuous contravention. We acknowledge the comments made. However, we would advise that this is not the case. Your vehicle was identified on each occasion during different periods of parking enforcement and as such, on each day, the Civil Enforcement Officer (CEO) was correct to issue the PCN. Your motorcycle permit had expired on 17 July 2025 and as confirmed in the Noticeof Rejection which was issued to you, we issued a permit renewal reminder by email on30 June 2025. We do appreciate that at the time, you were busy, having just got marriedand preparing to leave for your honeymoon. However, when relying on a permit to obtain a dispensation against parking restrictions, it is ultimately the responsibility of the permit holder to ensure that a valid permit is held for their vehicle at all times. Permit renewalreminders are a discretionary service which the council provide and as such, it is theresponsibility of a residents to be aware of when their permit is due to expire and to also make sure that a renewal application is made in a timely manner. We fully acknowledge your personal, financial and medical circumstances. However, they do not present grounds for the cancellation of the PCNs.

You can now choose one of the following options:
Pay the penalty charge. We will accept the discounted amount of £55.00 in settlement ofeach PCN, provided payment is received by 7 October 2025. After that date, the full penalty charge of £110.00 will be payable for each PCN.OrWait for a Notice to Owner (NtO) to be issued to the registered keeper of the vehicle, who is legally responsible for paying the penalty charges. Any further correspondence received prior to the NtO being issued may not be responded to.The NtO gives the recipient the right to make formal representations against the penaltycharges. If we reject those representations, there will be the right of appeal the Environment and Traffic Adjudicator. You can make a credit or debit card payment on our automated payment line on 020 75278000 at any time. You can also pay online at www.islington.gov.uk. If you prefer to pay by cheque, please make it payable to LB Islington and send it to the address at the top of thisletter. Please write the PCN number on the back of the cheque. You may also send postalorders (quoting the PCN number).
Yours sincerely
Islington Parking Operations

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This was our appeal letter:
22nd September 2025

To: Islington Parking Services
Re: Representations against multiple PCNs – Vehicle Registration LX10 DZE

Dear Sir/Madam,

I make formal representations under the Traffic Management Act 2004 against the following PCNs issued to my motorbike (registration LX10 DZE):

PCN Numbers: IZ36214193, IZ36321091, IZ36323268, IZ36398868, IZ36399292, IZ36478209, IZ36500090, IZ36596679 (and further PCNs subsequently issued).

Grounds of Representation:

Continuous Contravention
The alleged contraventions arose solely because my resident parking permit expired while I was away from home for my wedding and honeymoon. During this time, the vehicle remained stationary in the same resident bay.

It is well established by London Tribunals adjudicators (e.g. ETA Case 2110166557 and others) that where a vehicle remains continuously parked in contravention, enforcement authorities should not issue multiple PCNs for what is effectively a single contravention. The principle of fairness and proportionality dictates that only the first PCN should be enforced, not a series of daily penalties.

Issuing more than 7 PCNs while the vehicle was immobile is therefore procedurally unfair and excessive.

Statutory Guidance on Proportionality
Under section 87 of the Traffic Management Act 2004, enforcement authorities are under a duty to have regard to the Statutory Guidance to Local Authorities on Civil Enforcement of Parking Contraventions, which states that enforcement should be fair, proportionate, and not unduly onerous.

Given that I had no opportunity to rectify the contravention while abroad, and had no knowledge that my resident permit had expired, the issuing of multiple PCNs is plainly disproportionate.

Permit Expiry – Exceptional Circumstances
I am normally a compliant resident permit holder. Unfortunately, the renewal reminder email was received on the day before my civil wedding, and the permit expired the day before I travelled abroad for my honeymoon. In the context of bereavement (loss of my brother), redundancy, and ongoing health issues reported to my GP, this was an isolated lapse, not deliberate non-compliance.

Removal and Storage Fees
I promptly paid £720 to recover my vehicle from the pound and paid the residential permit on the same day. I respectfully submit that this amount has more than satisfied the council’s interest in deterrence and enforcement. In addition, my motorbike sustained damage during storage, loss of important and expensive locking device, evidenced in photographs taken upon release.

In light of the above, I respectfully request that:

The multiple PCNs issued for what was a single continuous contravention be cancelled.

At most, only the first PCN should be upheld.

Consideration be given to refunding or reducing the removal and storage charges, given the damage sustained and the fact that multiple PCNs should not have been issued.

This was an honest mistake under exceptional personal circumstances. I acted in good faith, paid the release fee immediately, and have otherwise demonstrated a consistent history of compliance with resident parking requirements.

Should the Council reject these representations, I reserve the right to appeal to the independent adjudicator at London Tribunals, where I will rely on the doctrine of continuous contravention and the statutory duty of proportionality.

I ask the Council to exercise discretion and cancel the outstanding PCNs in the interests of fairness.

Yours faithfully


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Sorry, but your account doesn't make sense.

Maybe if you made your google link public this might help.

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They are right that it isn't a continuous contravention but it is not proportionate to keep issuing PCNs.

There are 7 outstanding PCNs on the list - the first is a different settled one and the last the pound PCN.

They are lower level penalties which I'm not sure is correct for a resident permit but maybe there is something different about parking bikes. But the contravention of not paying the parking charge doesn't look right to me.

At £55 each at discount they are asking for £365. The daily storage fee for an impounded vehicle is also £55 so in fact not removing it before may have cots you less if these can't be appealed.

I'll have a look at the contravention issue.

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@stamfordman
Why isn't this a continuous contravention. The Vespa didn't move from where it was parked, or did it?

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A continuous contravention is where a vehicle is in 24/7 contravention such as on double yellows. This is a timed pay bay.

Islington residents can buy a m/c permit that gives free parking in any m/c pay bay. Here they've just ignored the expired permit and issued non-payment in pay bay PCNs.

After impounding they really should use discretion on the others in my view but they haven't and it was a decent ask.

It's a gamble but they may not contest tribunal appeals.



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We thought that after paying for the impound release, that would be it-if we knew that more PCNs would be coming after that, we would have just left the Vespa there. Thank you so much for the advice everyone. Anyone with experience in taking such matter to the tribunal? What would be our chances to win? We have another few days to think about it I guess... If not, we will take out a short term loan to pay for the rest of the PCNs as we already went into overdraft with the compound release fees.