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Re: PCN Kingston, code 01 Parked in restricted street, The Bittoms
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I will take a look today. Sorry as I am retired - apparently. I did a concert many years ago at the tennis club.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2026, 10:38:49 am by Hippocrates »
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If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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Re: PCN Kingston, code 01 Parked in restricted street, The Bittoms
« Reply #16 on: »
Please could you advise when would you be able to assist with this as I would hate to miss the deadline for the appeal:(

There is no deadline for appeal as such. These, informal reps, may be made and are required to be considered at any time prior to a Notice to Owner being served which cannot occur until after 28 days, hence where '28 days' comes from. However, if informal reps are submitted before the discount expires then the discount is normally held.

The PCN, which we haven't seen(for reasons set out earlier), was served on ??

We need to look at procedure(the PCN) as well as the contravention, so pl visit the READ THIS FIRST message on the main page of the forum to see how to do this.
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Re: PCN Kingston, code 01 Parked in restricted street, The Bittoms
« Reply #17 on: »
This PCN was issued on 27 January, please see the link below:

https://storage.to/FhOjUDEge
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Re: PCN Kingston, code 01 Parked in restricted street, The Bittoms
« Reply #18 on: »
There is no Controlled Parking Zone sign at all. So, the contravention did not occur. I entered the road twice.
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: PCN Kingston, code 01 Parked in restricted street, The Bittoms
« Reply #19 on: »
Good afternoon. Please could anyone advise the draft for appeal if available?
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Re: PCN Kingston, code 01 Parked in restricted street, The Bittoms
« Reply #20 on: »
We established earlier that the CPZ entry sign is here:



The challenge is on the sign being on a busy road (so easily missed) in a large zone.
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Re: PCN Kingston, code 01 Parked in restricted street, The Bittoms
« Reply #21 on: »
There are actually two signs, one each side of the carriageway
https://maps.app.goo.gl/USghtXjm9AF632tJ7
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Re: PCN Kingston, code 01 Parked in restricted street, The Bittoms
« Reply #22 on: »
Hi everyone. I have just received a rejection letter following my informal appeal dated 11 Feb.
I used Phillip’s line of defense saying there were no signs restricting parking on single yellow.
See attached for the rejection.

https://storage.to/FuDDUNCQd
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Re: PCN Kingston, code 01 Parked in restricted street, The Bittoms
« Reply #23 on: »
That was bound to be the response - you had to put them to defending the CPZ signage and zone size.

You can still do this at NTO stage.
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Re: PCN Kingston, code 01 Parked in restricted street, The Bittoms
« Reply #24 on: »
Thank you. That is tricky for me to understand the exact wording. Could you assist with the draft for defense?
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Re: PCN Kingston, code 01 Parked in restricted street, The Bittoms
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i am supposed to be retired but as an exception will deal with it.
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: PCN Kingston, code 01 Parked in restricted street, The Bittoms
« Reply #26 on: »
They have re-offered the discount.

Why do you think you have a strong enough case to risk this?

Entry signage has been shown, so your only substantive argument would seem to be one of zone size. If you can find a body of evidence which is couched in numerical terms e.g. adjudicators more often than not accept this argument if a zone exceeds X sq miles/Y streets etc, then you might think it worthwhile continuing.

There are always prospective procedural irregularities, but you(the registered keeper) have to risk £70 to find out.

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Re: PCN Kingston, code 01 Parked in restricted street, The Bittoms
« Reply #27 on: »
Good afternoon all,

Please could anyone advise if this case is worth fighting for and there is a solid line of defense? Thank you.
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Re: PCN Kingston, code 01 Parked in restricted street, The Bittoms
« Reply #28 on: »
Quote from: Vada_nevada on Yesterday at 03:24:14 pm
Good afternoon all,

Please could anyone advise if this case is worth fighting for and there is a solid line of defense? Thank you.
My view is that success at London Tribunals is not a 'dead cert'. You're only argument is the lack of repeater signs in what is a large CPZ. It could win, but you must decide if it is worth risking the extra £70
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