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Re: High St Romford parked by necessity
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I sent a reply to the NTO [I have a confirmation email from havering council of it's receipt but have now received a charge certificate with no reply to my NTO. The charge certificate has some errors [the date of contravention and date of NTO are the same and it's format just doesn't look right as it lists the reasons why the CC COULD be sent but not which it is. I'm a bit puzzled. Is it correct I can only wait for the charge to be lodged as a dept at the county court and put in my appeal for it to be reset to a new NTO to be issued ?

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Thank you for your help.
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Re: High St Romford parked by necessity
« Reply #46 on: »
Date of NTO.

Date of your reps.

Were these submitted in the form and manner set out in the NTO?

The CC, could have been issued because you did not make reps in time and what you sent has been disregarded.

It's all about dates and actions, so pl post the above.
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Re: High St Romford parked by necessity
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NTO was dated 05/01/2025 and Date of NTO appeal was 02/02. I used the online form the council supply that goes straight to their dept and an auto. confirmation email is then sent
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Re: High St Romford parked by necessity
« Reply #48 on: »
error
« Last Edit: March 24, 2026, 05:35:26 pm by John Doe Man »
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Re: High St Romford parked by necessity
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Where is the Notice to Owner? The last one I saw was flawed.
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Re: High St Romford parked by necessity
« Reply #50 on: »
original NTO link below - Note the missing image from the page. Also very puzzling is that the contravention date is 25/10/2025 yet on the CC it states the NTO was sent to me on 25/10/2025.I have the confirmation of receipt email for the NTO appeal I sent !!

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Re: High St Romford parked by necessity
« Reply #51 on: »
NTO dated 5 Jan, therefore presumed served on 7th, 28-day period ends 3 Feb. If you made reps electronically on 2 Feb. then these were in time.

Next stage is to wait for the Order for Recovery at which point you make a submission that you made representations to the authority but did not receive a response. Send this as directed on the form, the CC and OfR will be cancelled and the matter referred to the adjudicator.

Keep the reps you submitted and the auto receipt, you're likely to need them.

Otherwise, it's a case of waiting for 2 weeks and then checking the council website periodically.
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Re: High St Romford parked by necessity
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Quote from: John Doe Man on Yesterday at 01:11:05 pm
original NTO link below - Note the missing image from the page. Also very puzzling is that the contravention date is 25/10/2025 yet on the CC it states the NTO was sent to me on 25/10/2025.I have the confirmation of receipt email for the NTO appeal I sent !!

https://postimg.cc/JGsKhQxH

They have corrected the reps. date BUT NOT the payment date which MUST be 28 days from the date of service.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: High St Romford parked by necessity
« Reply #53 on: »
I'm not sure what you mean - could you explain please as it seams they claim on he CC that the NTO was sent on 25/10/2025 when the NTO date of service was 05/01/2026 and they ignored my NTO Rep.
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You should follow the process. The NTO is flawed because it truncates the period of payment.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: High St Romford parked by necessity
« Reply #55 on: »
Oh you mean the NTO should state 28 days from the date of service rather than Not later than the last day of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of this notice I didn't know there was any difference.
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OP, let's clarify.

You have been served with a CC therefore you have NO further representations to make to the authority: they are no longer judges in their own cause.

The contents and form of a CC are NOT prescribed, so forget about its errors because they cannot form the basis of a claim of 'procedural impropriety'. Any appeal is made to the adjudicator.

Your only concern now is to submit a Witness Statement to the Traffic Enforcement Centre in time. This would be enclosed with an Order for Recovery. So, after 14 days have elapsed from the CC keep your eye on your post and their website: when an Order for Recovery has been issued the total penalty increases by a further £10.

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Re: High St Romford parked by necessity
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Thank you - I was thrown by Hippocrates post which although I'm sure is quite correct threw me for a time. If the TEC find in my favour do the council re-issue an NTO or does it go straight to the Adjudicator [It's a very long time since I did this and my memory is not great].

Thank you
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