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Hi, I'm looking for some advice on a Cheshire East Council postal PCN (Code 48) for stopping on SCHOOL KEEP CLEAR markings.

The alleged contravention was at 09:02 on 15 September 2026 on Manor Park South, Knutsford. The CCTV shows me stopping briefly to drop off a passenger.

I've since checked the location and there is a yellow regulatory sign stating “No stopping Mon–Fri 8am–5pm on entrance markings”, so unfortunately the restriction appears to have been in force at the time
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Full PCN and evidence photos:
https://postimg.cc/gallery/RBGVhx7⁠

One possible issue that's been suggested to me is that although the PCN contains two CCTV stills, and the council's online portal provides three stills plus the video, I can't see anywhere on the notice where it informs me of the rights under Regulation 3(2)(g), referring to Regulations 3(3) and 3(4) of the 2022 Representations and Appeals Regulations, regarding viewing the approved-device record/requesting still images and the authority's obligation to comply within a reasonable time.

Could that omission amount to a procedural impropriety despite the photographs and video already being available online?

I'd also really appreciate it if anyone experienced with these could look over the PCN/evidence and see whether there are any other grounds on which this could potentially be challenged.

Thanks in advance for any help.
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I cannot find:

g)where the enforcement notice is a regulation 10 penalty charge notice served under regulation 10(2)(a) of the 2022 General Regulations (an “approved device notice”), the effect of paragraphs (3) and (4).

(3) The recipient (“R”) of an approved device notice may, by notice in writing, request that the enforcement authority—

(a)makes available, at one of its offices specified by R, free of charge and at a time during normal office hours so specified, for viewing by R or R’s representative the record of the alleged relevant road traffic contravention produced by the approved device pursuant to which the penalty charge was imposed, or

(b)provides R, free of charge, with such still images from that record as, in the authority’s opinion, establish the alleged relevant road traffic contravention.


Trivial?

IMO, no. It's fundamental.

Why? Because of the words 'may, by notice in writing..'  I'll refer to this as a 'postal order' issue.

What does the law anticipate AND provide safeguards for?  Those in society who do not want to or are unable to conduct their lives online. S*d online credit cards, bank transfers..I prefer a postal order.

And by the same token, these people may WRITE to the authority to request a personal VIEWING of the evidence against them.

And if, by virtue of omitting this crucial information in a WRITTEN notice, the recipient is unaware of how they may view evidence, which is their right [ The enforcement authority must comply with any request under paragraph (3) within a reasonable time] then they are denied the ability to mount an informed defence. To import a mantra from Private Parking, a keeper may not be presumed to be the driver'.
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OK,so the video shows you completely bang-to-rights assuming the signs are there with the restriction times. Which, indeed, they seem to be : -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/KbiFy7eKFNfH9kMB6
and
https://maps.app.goo.gl/6P99MF6sa8FDGU469

The video shows you parking on yellow zig-zags as if they weren't there at all. Do you regularly drop off here or was this a  one-off ? Councils like CEC and others were recently granted powers to enforce these restrictions so you may have been dropping off there for years without penalty.

So for an appeal, you are looking at what we call a "collateral challenge", one based on council mismanagement of the enforcement process. This comes under the statutory ground of "procedural impropriety". This did not exist in the original 1991 legislation, but it became clear over time, that council were abusing the system (to make money, basically). so the replacement Act, (the Traffic Management Act 2004), introduced this statutory appeal grounds for cases where councils had not followed what they are required to do in the law and its associated regulations. This means that once one can establish that a procedural impropriety has occurred, an adjudicator has no discretion whatsoever,  the PCN must be cancelled, even if the contravention occurred.

Anyway, at the moment, I see no such procedural impropriety, but others may find one or even two or more

We see PCNs from Cheshire East, my "hoe" council very rarely so there is everything to play for by careful study of the PCN and the facilities on their website that allow one to submit representations or make payment.
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@Incandescent, can you find the reference to viewing?
Sorry, no, and yes, I'm rushing too fast !!  Yes, the PCN indeed has fatal errors of content rendering it void, under statutory ground of 'procedural impropriety'. This will only get dealt with at the TPT, as CEC is a totally Dumbo council so will refuse your reps based on this, thinking the very obvious contravention is sufficient. It certainly isn't, but there are some adjudicators at TPT who seem to think that provided no prejudice occurs such an omission can be ignored even though it is a statutory ground of appeal which they have no discretion to refuse. Such are the young sprog lawyers we seem to get nowadays, unfortunately.
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Thanks very much for the replies and for taking the time to look through everything.

Unfortunately I can confirm that the signs were there at the time, so I don't think there is anything I can argue regarding the signage.

This was actually the first time I'd ever dropped somebody off at this school and, after this, it will certainly be the last!

The Regulation 3 point regarding the missing information about viewing/requesting the approved-device evidence therefore seems to be the only potential avenue I have at the moment.

Would either of you happen to have a template or wording from a previous representation based on this particular procedural impropriety that I could adapt?

If not, I'll put something together myself based on the legislation you've referred to, but I'd appreciate any guidance on how best to word it, particularly so that the point is properly preserved should Cheshire East reject it and it subsequently go to the TPT.

Thanks again for your help.
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We very rarely see "provincial" PCNs on here, most of the forum traffic is for London, where PCN penalty income is a Magic Money Tree for the councils and also Transport for London who are trousering well over £650 million a year from PCN penalties, and most of that comes from people paying the discount !

Your maximum exposure if you take CeC through the full process of appeal is £70, the amount on your PCN. There are no additional costs if you appeal to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal.
So PCNs from the provinces, (apart from large cities), get very little scrutiny of their content. The basic thing is that a PCN must have certain content, and if it doesn't it is non-compliant and thus the council serving them are committing procedural improprieties.

Here is the relevant Act, and its associated relevant regulations: -
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/18/contents

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/bus-lane-and-moving-traffic-enforcement-outside-london/traffic-management-act-2004-statutory-guidance-for-local-authorities-outside-london-on-civil-enforcement-of-bus-lane-and-moving-traffic-contravention

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2022/9780348232752/contents

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2022/71/regulation/11/made
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This is the representation I'm proposing to submit to Cheshire East. I've used all the info you have all mentioned and asked chatgpt to put it together. Before I send it, would you mind having a look and letting me know what you think please and whether you'd change/add anything? Thanks again.

PCN: GA70836524
Vehicle registration: HG73 ETO

I make representations against the above Penalty Charge Notice on the statutory ground that there has been a procedural impropriety on the part of the enforcement authority.

The PCN is a Regulation 10 penalty charge notice issued on the basis of evidence produced by an approved device.

Regulation 3(2)(g) of The Civil Enforcement of Road Traffic Contraventions (Representations and Appeals) (England) Regulations 2022 provides that, where an enforcement notice is a Regulation 10 PCN served under Regulation 10(2)(a) of the 2022 General Regulations (an “approved device notice”), the notice must include information conveying the effect of paragraphs (3) and (4).

Paragraph 3 provides, in summary, that the recipient of an approved-device notice may, by notice in writing, request that the enforcement authority either:

(a) makes the record of the alleged contravention produced by the approved device available for viewing, free of charge, at one of its offices specified by the recipient and at a specified time during normal office hours; or

(b) provides the recipient, free of charge, with such still images from that record as the authority considers establish the alleged contravention.

Paragraph 4 further requires the enforcement authority to comply with a request made under paragraph 3 within a reasonable time.

I have carefully examined the PCN served upon me and can find no information conveying these statutory rights or the authority's corresponding obligation under Regulation 3(4).

I appreciate that photographs and video evidence can be accessed through the Council's online portal. However, that does not appear to address the issue. Regulation 3(2)(g) places a mandatory requirement upon the notice itself to include information conveying the effect of paragraphs (3) and (4). The statutory rights provided by paragraph (3) are also not simply a right to access evidence through an online portal.

The fact that evidence happens to be available online therefore does not, in my submission, cure the failure of the PCN to convey the information that Regulation 3(2)(g) requires it to contain.

Cheshire East Council's own published guidance concerning the statutory ground of procedural impropriety recognises that this ground may be established where “The PCN or some other document did not contain the required information.”

Accordingly, I submit that the PCN does not comply with Regulation 3(2)(g) and that this amounts to a procedural impropriety. I therefore request that the PCN be cancelled.

Should the Council reject these representations, I ask that the Notice of Rejection specifically:

1. identifies precisely where on the PCN the Council considers the information required by Regulation 3(2)(g), including the effect of paragraphs (3) and (4), to have been conveyed; and

2. explains the Council's legal basis for considering that the availability of evidence through its online portal satisfies or otherwise removes the express requirement imposed by Regulation 3(2)(g).

I look forward to your response.
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I am making formal representations under the ground of Procedural Impropriety.

I acknowledge that I stopped on the markings outside a school when not permitted, therefore I should be grateful if the authority would not belabour this common ground in its response.

My representations are based upon objective facts, namely the omission from the PCN of contents which are mandated under the regulations i.e. Appeals regulation 3(2)(g), and therefore regulation 3(3). These facts cannot be refuted by the authority because they are objective. Should the authority be in any doubt, I have reproduced the regulatory requirements below:

As stated on the PCN, the governing regulations are the 'General' and 'Appeals' Regulations 2022. The offence was captured by an 'approved device', the PCN is therefore 'an approved device notice'. The offence is classed as an Outer Greater London(OGL) contravention which meets the requirements of regulation 11, thereby bringing it within the scope of regulation 10, specifically 10(2)(a)(i). Consequently, regulation 10(5) applies:

10.—(1) This regulation applies in relation to the notification, by an enforcement authority, of a penalty charge payable in respect of a relevant road traffic contravention.

(2) An enforcement authority may give notification of the penalty charge by serving a penalty charge notice by post where—

(a)on the basis of a record produced by an approved device, the authority has reason to believe that a penalty charge is payable with respect to—

(i)a regulation 11 parking contravention,



10(5) The penalty charge notice—

(a)must be served on the person appearing to the enforcement authority to be the owner of the vehicle involved in the contravention in consequence of which the penalty charge is payable, and

(b)must include the information set out—

(i)in Schedule 2, and

(ii)in regulation 3(2) of the 2022 Appeals Regulations.



Appeals regulations:

3(2) An enforcement notice must include the following information—

(a)that—

(g)where the enforcement notice is a regulation 10 penalty charge notice served under regulation 10(2)(a) of the 2022 General Regulations (an “approved device notice”), the effect of paragraphs (3) and (4).

(3) The recipient (“R”) of an approved device notice may, by notice in writing, request that the enforcement authority—

(a)makes available, at one of its offices specified by R, free of charge and at a time during normal office hours so specified, for viewing by R or R’s representative the record of the alleged relevant road traffic contravention produced by the approved device pursuant to which the penalty charge was imposed, or

(b)provides R, free of charge, with such still images from that record as, in the authority’s opinion, establish the alleged relevant road traffic contravention.

(4) The enforcement authority must comply with any request under paragraph (3) within a reasonable time.


The PCN was issued under regulation 10(2) of the General regulations;
Regulations 3(2)(g), 3(3) and 3(4) therefore apply.

The regulatory obligations which fall to the authority are unarguable as is the fact that the PCN omits the mandatory requirements and, with respect, this must be the starting point as regards its consideration of this ground of representation.

It is an unarguable fact that a failure by an enforcement authority to observe a requirement imposed on it by the 2022 General Regulations is  a 'procedural impropriety' which is a statutory ground of appeal.

As I have clearly established by reference ONLY to the regulations and the PCN, there has been a procedural impropriety by the authority. The only question is what it intends to do.

As judges in its own cause at present, it could adopt what I understand is known as the Private Baldrick approach and deny everything in the hope that a re-offered discount might tempt me to cut and run.

Alternatively, it could simply cancel the PCN and hope that this would be an end to the matter and that it could continue to issue these defective PCNs.

I suspect that internally you would examine when the defect crept into the PCN - I understand the council adopted these powers in 2025- and assess what financial damage might be caused if this defect were to be exposed to a wider audience. I understand that the London Boroughs of Southwark and Croydon provide useful case histories in this regard.

I would hope that whichever route you choose, you would reprint the PCN so that those keepers who do not wish to carry out their lives online, who prefer everything to be in writing, including requesting to view the evidence against them(personal viewing being the only option for them) and who might still pay by postal order obtained from the Post Office would be offered the protections provided by Parliament under the regulations.

Some thoughts.

Wait for others.
Last Edit: October 03, 2026, 11:58:53 am by tincombe
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Thank you very much for taking the time to put all of that together, it's genuinely appreciated. That's extremely helpful and explains the argument far better than I would have been able to.

I'll hold fire for the moment as you've suggested and see if anybody else has any thoughts before I submit my representations.

Thanks again to you and Incandescent for taking the time to look through this and help me with it.