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PCN: BZ82837370
Date / Time: 23/02/2026 at 18:00
VR: WA17 ZJX
Location: Reede Road (Dagenham) – junction with service road opposite 9–13
Contravention: Performing a prohibited turn (no right turn)

I am seeking advice before submitting my informal & as I expect formal representation to a PCN that arrived for me in the post today.

On the date and time stated I made a right turn into Reede Road in order to access the Lidl/Iceland car park. I was initially turning into Reede Road from the A1240 main road past the shopping centre. It was dark and raining heavily at the time, which significantly reduced visibility. I followed another vehicle that entered the car park ahead of me and did not notice any restriction indicating that a right turn was prohibited during certain hours.

I later discovered, after reviewing the location on Google Street View, that there is a sign indicating “no right turn” between 08:30–10:00 and 16:30–19:00 Monday to Saturday. However, I did not see this sign when driving because it was not illuminated and visibility conditions were poor due to the weather and time of day. The first time I became aware of the restriction was after receiving the PCN.

My intention was simply to park and shop at Lidl, which I do regularly. I can also retrieve a bank statement or receipt confirming a purchase at Lidl around that time if needed.

From reading other discussions it appears this right turn into Reede Road for the Lidl/Iceland car park has caught out many drivers - seems like an easy cash grab for the council and seemingly random location after turning from the dagenham heathway main A1240 road - you wouldn't expect a random restriction on your way into the local lidl and also trying to avoid getting stuck in the large yellow box.

I have attached the following for review:
• All sides of the PCN - Evidence Folder Here
• The council video evidence - in folder above
• Photographs from the PCN - in folder above
• A Google Street View link to the location - -
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Any advice on whether the signage, lighting, or circumstances may provide grounds to challenge this PCN would be appreciated.

Does anyone know if the camera details in the top corner indicate it's an authorised camera for capturing this type of footage? Maybe there's a defence based on the camera/anpr footage being inaccurate.

PS. Just saw an FOI request for the number of PCNs given at the same location dated November 2023.

"Please provide the number of PCNs issued at location: Reede Road (Dagenham) (Jcn With Service
Road Opposite 9-13) under the contravention of 50r Performing a prohibited turn (no right turn) since
the inception of the traffic restriction to date.
The number of PCNs is 12,920." Read here for more - https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/pcns_issued_at_reede_road
« Last Edit: March 06, 2026, 02:22:41 pm by TitoMW »

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We had several cases when they first put this sign up - I'll check latest on the tribunal register. The video obviously doesn't show the sign.
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My apologies - have now added a picture of the sign from Google Maps. This may have moved recently as seems to have been stated on this forum but until i'm in the area again - won't be able to take a present day picture.

Have added here and in the evidence folder.
sign pics
sign pics
« Last Edit: March 06, 2026, 07:06:02 pm by TitoMW »

We've seen this location several times, incl on the now-gone Pepipoo forum. I think there were a few wins a few years ago, but I think the sign has been improved since.

Hi all,
I received a rejection notice stating this.



Barking & Dagenham
London Borough of Barking &
Dagenham
PO BOX 352
Sheffield
S98 1YE

Date 18/03/2026

Mr -----
Dear Mr ------
Notice of Rejection of Representation

London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003
Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) Number: BZ82837370
Vehicle Registration: WA17ZJX
Date of Contravention: 23/02/2026
Appeal Verification Code: 82C614

The Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) was issued to you because your vehicle was seen performing a turn where it was not permitted to do so.

We have investigated the circumstances raised in your correspondence and have made the decision to not cancel your notice. The reasons for my decision are set out below, along with the options available to you at this stage.
The Council has issued and served a Penalty Charge Notice as the aforementioned vehicle was recorded by an approved device 'performing a prohibited turn. The CCTV footage was reviewed by a CCTV operator who deemed that a contravention has occurred.

As outlined in the Highway Code it is the responsibility of drivers to make themselves aware of any restrictions that are in force and drive accordingly. This restriction is illustrated by a sign with a red outer circle showing you the direction you must not take. The particular sign for this location indicates that a right turn has been banned. You are permitted to carry on straight ahead. The restriction prohibits vehicles from turning right from Reede Road (Dagenham) Mon - Sat 8am - 10am and 4.30 - 7pm.

It is the responsibility of the driver to ensure they check signage, whether they are familiar with the area or not, so they are not in contravention. Please note that there is signage at the location in compliance to Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016 which indicates the restriction in force.

We have looked at the CCTV footage again as well as consider what you said about the signage, however, we are satisfied that the signs at the location were clear enough and correct, the PCN was correctly issued, and we cannot justify its cancellation.

BZ82837370

I think I'll just pay the £80 discounted fee - I was considering the authorised camera angle and I've submitted a Subject Access Request with a hope to try my hand at the ETA Tribunal but I really don't feel confident that I have much of a case or chance of success. So will just suffer the discounted fee I guess  >:( So crazy to get a £80 parking ticket for driving into Lidl within such arbitrary hours (Mon - Sat 8am - 10am and 4.30 - 7pm, saturday too why?)  - why would I ever go back there? Very discouraging that a first time offence is penalised like that - I can't just apologise and say I'll never do it again? So many people are caught out at that exact same junction given the high levels of PCN issuage and consistent signage issues.

Anyways I have other ones to share with you all haha.




Fine.
At least you didn't fold and pay straightaway and join the Mugged Club ! They've had to do at least some work for their money.