Author Topic: Havering PCN - Code 622 - Parked with one or more wheels over footpath (Read 545 times)

oldnebraskan · « **on:** March 23, 2025, 03:39:46 pm »

Hi all,

Thank you in advance for any advice provide!

On the 9th February while taking my son to his Sunday league football match I received a PCN from Havering council with a contravention code 622 Parked with one or more wheels on or over a footpath or any part of a road other than a carriageway (partly on footway) .

On the day in question when I arrived I found many cars parked with 2 wheels in the pavement and as I did not see any parking restrictions on the road I thought it wasn't going to be an issue (wrong I was).

GSV -

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Can someone please advice if:

1 - Is there any chance successfully appealing this PCN?
2 - Formally appeal and if offered the discount just pay it off?
3 - Take it as a lesson learned and just pay and move on?

Images:
PCN -> https://imgur.com/a/GueOu5D

NTO -> https://imgur.com/a/GRKNpRU

My pictures after seeing the pcn -> https://imgur.com/a/tWH7v9E

Incandescent · « **Reply #1 on:** March 23, 2025, 05:42:44 pm »

Looking around on GSV, (which is not anywhere near up-to-date), shows signs for part-off-carriageway parking with text below "in marked bays only". This is the sign, if you approach on Oreston Road: -

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and this is the sign if you turn in from Upminster Road North: -

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You weren't in a marked bay from what I can see of your photos. GSV does show some marked bays, but whether these are still visible, we can't tell from GSV.

You have a Notice to Owner. Did you not submit any informal reps to the PCN at all ?

If they don't re-offer the discount when rejecting formal reps it is then a total no-brainer to take them to London Tribunals.

stamfordman · « **Reply #2 on:** March 23, 2025, 05:45:02 pm »

Where there is permitted footway parking there's the usual possibility that footway parking ban has been disapplied by council resolution in the road.

oldnebraskan · « **Reply #3 on:** March 25, 2025, 11:38:53 am »

Quote from: Incandescent on March 23, 2025, 05:42:44 pm

Looking around on GSV, (which is not anywhere near up-to-date), shows signs for part-off-carriageway parking with text below "in marked bays only". This is the sign, if you approach on Oreston Road: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/MSW4suRhczU9EHQq6
and this is the sign if you turn in from Upminster Road North: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/61TH8jj3Fbv9FR8i8
You weren't in a marked bay from what I can see of your photos. GSV does show some marked bays, but whether these are still visible, we can't tell from GSV.

You have a Notice to Owner. Did you not submit any informal reps to the PCN at all ?

If they don't re-offer the discount when rejecting formal reps it is then a total no-brainer to take them to London Tribunals.

Unfortunately I missed the deadline whilst traveling and dealing with some personal issues.

Can you think of a good argument to file my formal reps? Thank you in advance

oldnebraskan · « **Reply #4 on:** March 25, 2025, 11:40:46 am »

Quote from: stamfordman on March 23, 2025, 05:45:02 pm

Where there is permitted footway parking there's the usual possibility that footway parking ban has been disapplied by council resolution in the road.

Hi @stamfordman at the time I saw no parking restrictions on the street and nowhere near my car I saw a sign banning footway parking so it wasn't clear to me that this was not permitted as I saw other cars parked in the footway

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Author Topic: Havering PCN - Code 622 - Parked with one or more wheels over footpath (Read 545 times)

oldnebraskan

Havering PCN - Code 622 - Parked with one or more wheels over footpath

Incandescent

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stamfordman

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oldnebraskan

Re: Havering PCN - Code 622 - Parked with one or more wheels over footpath

oldnebraskan

Re: Havering PCN - Code 622 - Parked with one or more wheels over footpath