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Good afternoon all.

I am asking for a friend regarding this PCN. It a last day today for an appeal. As he followed the bus which completely blocked the signage and road markings without realising it on time. Very unfortunate.

The equipment used, as per the Harrow Council, for this is:

Enforcement cameras in Camrose Av.
Manufacturer - Siemens (Yunnex)
Model - LaneWatch Mk3

Any advice please.

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Today is not the last day - 16th is the deemed date of service.
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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Quote from: Hippocrates on May 14, 2024, 05:33:24 pm
Today is not the last day - 16th is the deemed date of service.

Thank you. I always get confused with 28 days. Just used online day counter which showed me today was the 28th day. Hence I said today was the last day for an appeal.
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@Intex310 I've just seen this and the council website says "This offence is on hold pending a review of your recent challenge", so please show us what you sent.

In the meantime I have requested the video, also please can you confirm what your friend's connection is to Smp Accountants Limited.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

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Quote from: cp8759 on May 19, 2024, 05:23:43 pm
@Intex310 I've just seen this and the council website says "This offence is on hold pending a review of your recent challenge", so please show us what you sent.

In the meantime I have requested the video, also please can you confirm what your friend's connection is to Smp Accountants Limited.

Good morning.

Thanks for the reply. Yes, it does belong to SMP...I've attached an appeal made which was rejected. I will upload the rejection shortly.

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Here's their rejection letter. My friend is gutted for missing out on the discounted price and he hates me.

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So you have only 14 days to pay, if you choose, at a discounted rate from the date of service?

Can we appeal wt the adjucator?
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Any advice please?
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@cp8759 is this a case re website errors?
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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Quote from: Hippocrates on June 02, 2024, 08:55:52 pm
@cp8759 is this a case re website errors?
No idea, the Harrow website removes the challenge button after you've made a representation so I have no way of checking.

@Intex310 at this point there's nothing to be lost in going to the tribunal, so your friend might as well have a go. If he's really lucky they might not contest.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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Thank you all.

How do I proceed for tribunal please?
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I'll drop you a PM.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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