Author Topic: Ealing Council, 50JR - Performing a prohibited turn (No right turn), Malden Ave/Whitton Ave West Greenford (U) UB6 0EG  (Read 1945 times)

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I went to pick up a Facebook purchase on Whitton Avenue West, the road is a long busy road at times. After picking up the purchase, I didn't want to travel to the end of the road to then just drive back down. I also didn't want to be making a U-turn on a busy main road. Malden Avenue being the closest side road from where I parked meant I drove in, performed a U-turn and headed back out to proceed home.

I don't recall seeing any signage i.e. no right turn prohibition. This may have been due to the sign being visually obscured by a tall vehicle? Or I just wasn't as vigilant as I should have been.

Checking Google Maps street view history the sign has been present throughout the years since 2008, with a camera installed in 2018. There is only 1 sign present, don't understand why they couldn't put one on the other side as well would be better situated within a drivers view?

I checked the PCN image and video and it does show me taking a turn. The image and video also have a longitude/latitude (GPS) stamp which correlates to the location mentioned on the PCN. However the image and video is cropped and doesn't show much i.e. the lamp post with the signage? Even though it would be from the rear view point at least to prove it was present at the date and time? Or whether there were any tall vehicles parked nearby obscuring the view of the sign? Without the longitude/latitude on the image/video this could have happened absolutely anywhere.

The last PCN I received was several years back but I specifically recall the video showing the contravention (was a U-turn) and then pointing the camera at the signage i.e. no U-turn within x number of yards.

PCN Letter:



PCN Image:



Street View:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/1XWpC82UzNnT3Yjd7

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I can't get Ealing's site to work with:

AO06932996
LT64UFW

Am I reading these right?

I can't get Ealing's site to work with:

AO06932996
LT64UFW

Am I reading these right?
I typed them in from their PCN and get the same result.

I can't get Ealing's site to work with:

AO06932996
LT64UFW

Am I reading these right?
I can't get Ealing's site to work with:

AO06932996
LT64UFW

Am I reading these right?

Hi both,

Apologies for the delayed response, just saw the messages as emails went to Junk!

The PCN number should be: AO06938996.

Just tried and works for me.

Thanks.

I can't get Ealing's site to work with:

AO06932996
LT64UFW

Am I reading these right?
I can't get Ealing's site to work with:

AO06932996
LT64UFW

Am I reading these right?

Hi both,

Apologies for the delayed response, just saw the messages as emails went to Junk!

The PCN number should be: AO06938996.

Just tried and works for me.

Thanks.
OK, but that's not the number on the PCN !  The PCN number is quite clear and shows ...2996

I can't get Ealing's site to work with:

AO06932996
LT64UFW

Am I reading these right?
I can't get Ealing's site to work with:

AO06932996
LT64UFW

Am I reading these right?

Hi both,

Apologies for the delayed response, just saw the messages as emails went to Junk!

The PCN number should be: AO06938996.

Just tried and works for me.

Thanks.
OK, but that's not the number on the PCN !  The PCN number is quite clear and shows ...2996

The letter I have in my hand shows AO06938996 not 2996. I can see now that scanned copy shows 2996 for some reason. I am unable to edit the upload but can upload a photo instead again if needed. I used an app called Camscanner not sure whether that messed something up as when taking the photo it was scanning the document or something?

Hi, noobie here, I'm kicking myself. I live locally - I went from South Harrow to Greenford a couple of times in a day, we have a new car so I didn't go round the back roads and instead I went along Whitton Avenue West then turned right into Malden Avenue - twice in one day - and now I have received 2 PCNs.

Coming up to the junction:
  • there's a 20mph sign, with a no right turn sign,
  • then there's zebra crossing,
  • then there is a no right turn sign between the zebra crossing and the turning
  • immediately before the turning, there is no visible no entry sign or no right turn sign
  • and then, turning into Malden Ave there's a bus stop, and seven restriction signs.

[p]I have to say that I was concentrating on the zebra crossing and keeping my speed down to 20mph I could see the restriction signs .. what I didn't notice was the no right turn signs!![/p]

My viewpoint was that, because I didn't see the signs twice in one day, even though they're visible, the signs are not prominent enough when you're having to drive at 20mph (which takes a lot of concentration on the speedo!) it's too easy to miss.

here's the link to google maps, approaching the junction


Here's a link to google maps, immediately before the junction, where there isn't a no right turn sign

on google maps, as you actually get to the junction, a no right turn is not present.

@Dave1UK - did you appeal?

Does anyone else have any thoughts?
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Hi, noobie here, I'm kicking myself. I live locally - I went from South Harrow to Greenford a couple of times in a day, we have a new car so I didn't go round the back roads and instead I went along Whitton Avenue West then turned right into Malden Avenue - twice in one day - and now I have received 2 PCNs.

Coming up to the junction:
  • there's a 20mph sign, with a no right turn sign,
  • then there's zebra crossing,
  • then there is a no right turn sign between the zebra crossing and the turning
  • immediately before the turning, there is no visible no entry sign or no right turn sign
  • and then, turning into Malden Ave there's a bus stop, and seven restriction signs.

[p]I have to say that I was concentrating on the zebra crossing and keeping my speed down to 20mph I could see the restriction signs .. what I didn't notice was the no right turn signs!![/p]

My viewpoint was that, because I didn't see the signs twice in one day, even though they're visible, the signs are not prominent enough when you're having to drive at 20mph (which takes a lot of concentration on the speedo!) it's too easy to miss.

here's the link to google maps, approaching the junction


Here's a link to google maps, immediately before the junction, where there isn't a no right turn sign

on google maps, as you actually get to the junction, a no right turn is not present.

@Dave1UK - did you appeal?

Does anyone else have any thoughts?
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