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Hi,

Received this PCN, when I started to move on across a yellow junction but someone blocks my exit. What do I do?





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They've got a cheek enforcing this with foliage blocking some of the view.

Their letter also contains some gibberish nonsense and something about a parking contravention presumably from another letter.

They don't reoffer the discount so you must pay or appeal to the tribunal and the latter is obvious.

I can't see you losing this.

There may also be something from our member Hippo.

« Last Edit: September 06, 2025, 01:50:06 pm by stamfordman »

They've got a cheek enforcing this with foliage blocking some of the view.

Their letter also contains some gibberish nonsense and something about a parking contravention presumably from another letter.

They don't reoffer the discount so you must pay or appeal to the tribunal and the latter is obvious.

I can't see you losing this.

There may also be something from our member Hippo.



"Their letter also contains some gibberish nonsense and something about a parking contravention presumably from another letter."

What do you mean?

What should I put in my appeal to the tribunal?

Thank you

May we see what you wrote in your reps, please. Also all sides of the original PCN (omly redact yr name & address - leave all else in).

Contravention 14 May
NOR  29 Aug, served 2 Sept.

OP, is this your vehicle or is it leased/hired?

They've got a cheek enforcing this with foliage blocking some of the view.

Their letter also contains some gibberish nonsense and something about a parking contravention presumably from another letter.

They don't reoffer the discount so you must pay or appeal to the tribunal and the latter is obvious.

I can't see you losing this.

There may also be something from our member Hippo.



"Their letter also contains some gibberish nonsense and something about a parking contravention presumably from another letter."

What do you mean?...


Read their second paragraph

Contravention 14 May
NOR  29 Aug, served 2 Sept.

OP, is this your vehicle or is it leased/hired?

It's my vehicle but just under a HP finance agreement.

The appeal took ages? Don't they have like 1-2 months to reject it or accept?

May we see what you wrote in your reps, please. Also all sides of the original PCN (omly redact yr name & address - leave all else in).

Where would I see this?

May we see what you wrote in your reps, please. Also all sides of the original PCN (omly redact yr name & address - leave all else in).

Where would I see this?

In your opening post you showed us a rejection of your representations - this indicates you received a PCN, against which you made reps. So please show us all sides of the PCN (only redact yr name & address) and a copy of your representations.

@astralite has informed of this. Tribunal it is and I am free to represent you. I'll PM you my details. Let's get on with it.

Prevent a  charge certificate from being served? This fetters discretion and is contrary to what a NOR must state.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/2003/3/schedule/1/enacted


3. Where any representations are made under paragraph 1 above but the enforcing authority do not accept that a ground has been established, the notice served under sub-paragraph (7) of the said paragraph 1 (in this Schedule referred to as “the notice of rejection”) must—

(a)state that a charge certificate may be served under paragraph 5 below unless before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of the notice of rejection—

(i)the penalty charge is paid; or

(ii)the person on whom the notice is served appeals to a traffic adjudicator against the penalty charge; and
« Last Edit: September 06, 2025, 09:36:41 pm by Hippocrates »
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

got my MP involved who contacted people i didn't know existed and they had a further look. my mp's staff saw how unfair it was

cheers

Did it get cancelled?

Contravention 14 May
NOR  29 Aug, served 2 Sept.

OP, is this your vehicle or is it leased/hired?

It's my vehicle but just under a HP finance agreement.


OP, let's stay with terms which we know pl.

Who is the registered keeper?

Whatever the answer, then IMO the PCN is probably VOID. You need to deal with the PCN's validity before worrying about the contravention and detailed wording.

If you are the keeper then the PCN was served late.
If whoever else is the keeper, then IMO you cannot be held to be the owner because you have not indicated that the vehicle is subject to a hiring agreement of less than 6 months nor a lease.

Contravention 14 May
NOR  29 Aug, served 2 Sept.

OP, is this your vehicle or is it leased/hired?

It's my vehicle but just under a HP finance agreement.


OP, let's stay with terms which we know pl.

Who is the registered keeper?

Whatever the answer, then IMO the PCN is probably VOID. You need to deal with the PCN's validity before worrying about the contravention and detailed wording.

If you are the keeper then the PCN was served late.
If whoever else is the keeper, then IMO you cannot be held to be the owner because you have not indicated that the vehicle is subject to a hiring agreement of less than 6 months nor a lease.

contacted my MP, they saw the video, they got involved, PCN cancelled :) MP's staff made sure to say they can't do this for every PCN or they wouldn't have time to deal with more important things..

Did it get cancelled?

contacted my MP, they saw the video, they got involved, PCN cancelled :) MP's staff made sure to say they can't do this for every PCN or they wouldn't have time to deal with more important things..