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Greenwich Council - PCN - B4J Being in a Bus lane - Bugsby’s Way SE7 Letter: 6 Jan
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Posting on behalf of my parents. They received this PCN letter dated Tuesday 6th Jan on Thursday 8th Jan for an event which happened on 17th December 2025 at 10:58am on Bugsby’s Way SE7 Outside Sainsbury’s SE7.

I just want to seek clarification, in the video, which is included in the Google Drive link, it can be seen that the car stops and lets a passenger out of the car, this happens on a double yellow line, but also within a Bus Lane and just ahead of a Bus stop box and it is listed as a Being a Bus Lane enforcement.

As they are in the Bus Lane it would seem like a fine would be issued, however I was also under the impression that you are allowed to stop to let passengers out of the car, which rule supersedes the other in this case? It can be seen in the video (before it stops at 10 secs) that someone gets out of the car. 

If anyone can shed some light on this that would be great. They know that if they have done the wrong thing then they should pay the £80 fine before it doubles on the 20th Jan, however I just wanted to check if there were legitimate grounds for a successful appeal.

First time here so thanks in advance, 

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Google Drive with PCN letter and Council evidence

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Re: Greenwich Council - PCN - B4J Being in a Bus lane - Bugsby’s Way SE7 Letter: 6 Jan
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I make this initial challenge in that the alleged contravention did not occur as the video evidence does not show any upright signage allegedly passed. Please cancel therefore.

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Be prepared for the long game. They have serious staffing problems too.

In this legislation they MUST attend a hearing to answer questions or their evidence is inadmissible.

The last one I won against them they did not attend. And their evidence was served late.

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/greenwich-no-notice-of-rejection-but-enforcement-notice/msg50449/#msg50449
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