Author Topic: Greenwich Council, London, parked in a suspended bay (21) Devonshire Drive  (Read 894 times)

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Hello all,

Some advice would be appreciated. We parked our car in the closest parking bay to us (no parking outside our house as it's a main road) on Friday 8 March. I walked past the car today for the first time and had a parking ticket as the bay had been suspended. This suspension happened after we parked and was for yesterday (18 March).

Here is the section of street https://maps.app.goo.gl/262hZLhHt1HgEPKy7

PCN attached.

Thank you :)



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Hmm, so you left the car parked for 11 days without attention or use.  This is a period that would allow them at least 7 days to put up the sign and to start whatever work was intended. A bit risky leaving the car such a long time especially in London. In fact you're lucky not to have been towed. A picture of the suspension sign would be useful, if you can get it.

Why did you leave the car so long, holidays/work abroad maybe ? The main point is your car was legally parked before they put up the suspension sign, so should be on the record they keep when putting up the sign. So your reps need to emphasise this and also state you are a resident. They should then cancel the PCN, but probably won't so you'd have to take them all the way to adjudication.

Other thing to ask is - do you need a resident permit in order to park in the bay where you parked.

Anyway, see what the others ask or say.

Here are the council photos











@peaches why did you leave the car unattended for so long? We can normally beat suspension bay PCNs when there was insufficient warning from the council, which would normally be two full weeks.

Also please confirm (to the best of your recollection) the exact time and date when you parked.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
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@peaches are you still with us?

I now have The Greenwich (Charged-For Parking Places) Order 2018 and I will request the map tiles.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

https://www.dft.gov.uk/traffic-auths/?search=greenwich

This Council appears not to have DfT approval for a suspension sign.

Mike
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Suspension logs:











I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order