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The YBJ is too long at each end, so is non-compliant with the requirement that it be installed at the junction between two or more roads. Your rear of your car would have been clear if the YBJ had been installed correctly. Needless to say, such is the greed for cash with councils, you may well have to take them to London Tribunals for a result.

Thanks for looking into this. I will appeal based on this.

I dont mind taking them to the Tribunal , if that's what it will take but just wanted to know if I have actual grounds for an appeal. Thanks again for taking the time to respond. Its very much appreciated.

Just remember that the discount option is not available at London Tribunals as it is a discount for early payment

This recent tribunal case may be helpful:

Case Details
Case reference   2250524718
Appellant   Matthew Tedford
Authority   Royal Borough of Greenwich
VRM   MF66UBX
PCN Details
PCN   GR24060727
Contravention date   03 Sep 2025
Contravention time   09:59:00
Contravention location   Plumstead High Street J/W Garibaldi Street
Penalty amount   GBP 160.00
Contravention   Entering and stopping in a box junction
Referral date   -
Decision Date   13 Feb 2026
Adjudicator   Martin Hoare
Appeal decision   Appeal allowed
Direction   
cancel the Penalty Charge Notice.

Reasons   
Mr Tedford attended this video appeal hearing. The Authority did not attend.

Mr Tedford submitted that he did not stop his vehicle on the box junction. The vehicle in front did not ‘pull fully forward’.

The Authority video established that the box junction was clear at the point of entry by Mr Tedford’s vehicle.

The rear point of his vehicle stopped on the fringe of the yellow marked area. The point at which it stopped was beyond the junction itself. The markings extended beyond the junction.

The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016



provide:

‘Box junctions

11.-(1) Subject to sub-paragraphs (2), (3) and (4), the yellow criss-cross marking provided for at item 25 of the sign table in Part 6 conveys the prohibition that a person must not cause a vehicle to enter the box junction so that the vehicle has to stop within the box junction due to the presence of stationary vehicles……..

(6) For the purposes of this paragraph “box junction” means an area of the carriageway where the marking has been placed and which is-

(a)at a junction between two or more roads;


Part of the box that it purportedly authorises is not within the junction of the roads and is therefore not 'at a junction between two or more roads'.


The box extends beyond the junction itself. This increased the distance Mr Tedford’s vehicle had to traverse without stopping. This made it more difficult to progress without falling foul of the box.

The purpose of the prohibition is to stop stationary vehicles blocking the junction to crossing traffic. Stopping beyond the junction would not block the junction.

This yellow box is not in accordance with the Regulations in that it extends beyond the junction.

The appeal is allowed.