Author Topic: HAVERING, code 52M Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicles, South St RM1 / Easten RD  (Read 64 times)

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Hi there,

Hoping the team here can help, I received the following fine;
https://imgpile.com/p/PZLwxS7#oyJzuux

(annoyingly on the same day we received a code 31 PCN which we are also in the process of appealing, we were rushing to get to our Mother in law, who is terminal.)

They are stating I went down a no entry, however I do not recall seeing any signs, it was fairly late & dark and the video evidence they have provided doesn't include a working video.

I used the argument provided on a previous chain seen on this website, but have received a notice of rejection, i'm stumped as normally when you appeal the reduced rate is paused however this is not the case, so they are expecting the full £160. Would be great to know if we have any case at all?

Its likely we will have to folk out £320 for 2 PCN's on the same day, which given other stresses we could really do without!
« Last Edit: January 15, 2026, 02:59:24 pm by HBFOOT »

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Pity you didn't comme on here first before submitting reps, as we would no doubt have told you Havering, (to their everlasting shame), do not re-offer the discount in any circumstances, unless it is mandated by law, which it isn't.

Anyway, having now had your reps rejected it is now a total no-brainer to take them to London Tribunals. The penalty remains the same.If you win you pay nothing, if you lose you pay the PCN penalty, there are no other costs. However, stupid Havering must prepare an evidence pack and also pay the adjudication fee.

I commented on a previous post but stupidly didn't create my own Topic!

If I take to a tribunal, whats my best argument? any tips on this would be extremely appreciated!

Thanks so much for your reply

Well, first off, we need to see the video.  I looked on their website and found it, and it shows your car reg but it doesn't show it passing any restriction signs. The location is totally wrong because a brief view of GSV shows no signs at the junction printed on the PCN. Basically, Havering get away with this nonsense because most people cough-up when they get the PCN to get the discount, not being willing to risk the full £160, nor knowing much about what the law says.

The signs are probably these:-
https://maps.app.goo.gl/2WMENRwU5KDRzDwv8

The road junction on your PCN is on the other side of the railway viaduct:-
https://maps.app.goo.gl/BDzcfNRqbb9x1zRD6


Thank you for reviewing, and looking at the signs. As I said, it was a dark miserable evening and we were rushing to get to our very unwell MIL.

In my argument to tribuneral then do I push with the argument, that the evidence they have provided does not show the car registration passing any of the restricted signs? I feel a little uneasy putting together the argument as I know these councils are pesky!

Happy to liase with you direct if easier?

Best to keep posting on the thread.

@HBFOOT Where is the Notice of Rejection please? I would suggest that @mrmustard or I offer to represent you. I annoyingly lost a case the other day (considering a review application). And I have my own to deal with in June.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r