Author Topic: Good day! Tell me how to stop the fines and open a decision through the court?  (Read 49273 times)

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As a fellow immigrant from the Baltics (I'm from Lithuania, and I suspect Maks is from Latvia), I deeply understand the confusion around legal terms like "courts," "adjudicators," and "tribunals." These distinctions simply don't exist in our home countries, and it's clear Maks struggled with navigating a legal system that demands a much deeper level of understanding from the outset.

The prolonged panic certainly didn't help, and I can empathize, having been in similar stressful situations myself. However, maintaining a clear mind is paramount in these circumstances. Maks, from the very beginning – or even now – it's crucial to methodically deconstruct the entire process, create a precise timeline, and meticulously document every communication sent to councils, enforcement centers, and bailiffs.

It's absolutely vital to follow the instructions provided by this forum's experts and answer their questions precisely. Many of Maks's responses appeared to be clouded by panic, fear, and anger, which regrettably seemed to impede the entire process. When people here ask "what did you send in the letter," they're not looking for a summary; they need the exact wording, word for word. My own experience highlights this perfectly: by following this forum's guidance to the letter, I managed to escape relatively unscathed despite risking 7 penalty charges of £180 each, totaling £1,260. In the end, I only paid £60 for one of those PCNs, all thanks to the invaluable individuals here. A failure to understand and follow these clear instructions may unfortunately be the cause of this significant £1200 hole.

Maks, while I truly empathize with your situation, it's difficult to avoid the conclusion that the lack of adherence to the clear guidance provided by multiple specialists has created this predicament. It may indeed be too late to fully contest this now.
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I am interested in how to solve this problem through the tribunal? How to return the case for consideration? How to get the entire history of letters from Newham. Let them show the letters with codes, if there were any, and who and where sent them? The thing is that in my appeals I indicated that my car was not under the prohibiting signs. I always provided evidence. I asked to stop all fines and resolve this in the tribunal. They rejected all requests and evidence. I did not receive any opportunities to resolve this in the tribunal. Let them indicate in what letters and to what address they sent me about the possibility of resolving the case through the tribunal? I do not have time to write them more letters. Is it possible to directly contact the tribunal? Or call? Dear Enceladus, please leave your number, it will be faster?

what exactly are you interested in E125AZ ?

Can anyone help? I have uploaded the letters here, but there are no codes to resolve the issue. This means that I was not offered to resolve the issue through the court. If I am wrong, correct me. Why does NewHam send me letters to E138AY, and the tribunal and NewHaM indicate some fictitious addresses that are in no way connected with the addresses of the fines, the address of my car, the addresses on the envelopes, the addresses in my letters and my personal address? This is a question for them. I have already written and proven that this is a fraudulent scheme, and I have already encountered it. HELP!!! I was not given codes, I did not receive an answer to the appeals, is this not enough to contact the tribunal?

Risky as it might sound, I think you could get another PCN and let us guide you through from start to finish.

In my opinion, you are VERY unlikely to resolve all of your issues through the tribunal because they are not obligated to consider anything but the PCN concerned in a Notice of Rejection. In my opinion you would have to obtain a clear statement from the adjudicator regarding the common theme of the signage and then return to the council and using different channels use any decision to convince them to look again at the whole raft of PCNs.

Thank you, everything is clear, but the problem is that no one gave me this number! That is, I was deprived of this opportunity. On the forum I posted letters from Newham, do you see information there about the code for going to court? There is not a single mention of my photos where you can see that my car is near 2 pillars without signs. And just pay the fine!

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ok I received a letter from the collectors yesterday, there are some codes there. Maybe through them I can open a case through the tribunal?

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The letter contains yr name & address (which you may wish to redact). Others will advise further.
Have you contacted Sheila at Bailiff Advice Online?
http://www.bailiffadviceonline.co.uk/

ok I received a letter from the collectors yesterday, there are some codes there. Maybe through them I can open a case through the tribunal?

Mow we have a further complication. The bailiff letter mentions failing to collect £515. The bailiff visit fee of £235 is included in that. They are only allowed to charge it once, so to threaten a further £235 is out of order.

£130 = Notice to Owner
£65 = Charge Certificate Surcharge
£10 = Traffic Enforcement Centre registration fee
£75 = Bailiff compliance stage fee
£280 = sub-total Notice of Enforcement
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£235 = Bailiff visit fee
£515 = Total

And the bailiff should be trying to collect all four PCNs, and the one £235 fee should cover all four.

This is a criminal company, bandits!!!

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They have 2 numbers, can you open a case through the tribunal using these numbers?

Concerning the four PCNs PN3987672A, PN39795559, PN39833603, PN39781678.

You received a Notice to Owner for each one. So far as I can determine, you failed to submit a formal representation against any of them within the time-frame allowed. If you had done so, then the PCNs would have been cancelled or a Notice of Rejection would have been issued. Without a Notice of Rejection (challenge) the Tribunal will not schedule an appeal.

If it is the case that you did submit formal representations then please post them up. These were either letters you sent or online submissions that are dated after the dates on the Notices to Owner.

You've left yourself in the situation that you cannot submit Witness Statements in response to the Orders for Recovery that you received since you have no legitimate grounds to do so.

Your only hope is to find some reason that might persuade the Council to accept late formal representations and this is a very long shot. The only issue I can find is that, for an unknown reason, some of your correspondence might have gone to a very old address at postcode "E12 5AZ". And that might be the address that resulted in your application for a resident's parking permit being refused. That's why I've asked for copies of anything you have with the "E12 5AZ" address. It was the lack of a permit that caused the PCNs in the first place.

Your answers can very confusing and too vague. Is there any other address involved, other than E13 8AY and E12 5AZ?

Your attempt to register an appeal, PCN PN 39936195 and tow, with the Adjudicator at the London Tribunals has been rejected twice. The last time by a senior and experienced Adjudicator. It seems that you did not explain the situation clearly enough, however you also confused your requests by adding in the other four PCNs. I hope you haven't aroused suspicion that you are trying to play the system. You will have to try again.
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This is a criminal company, bandits!!!
I'm sorry to say that Rundles are a legitimate company of Enforcement Agents (Bailiffs). And it's the same company that sent you the Notices of Enforcement for £280 each, that you posted up previously
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Thanks for the answer! I wrote in the letter what you suggested, I just added the information that I have a total of 5 fines from this parking lot without prohibition signs!

in this situation I understand that no one personally sent me codes to contact the tribunal, or am I mistaken? if so, then what are the options, I have already sent 3 letters to the tribunal, where I added a photo of my car near 2 solbs without prohibiting signs. I received 2 responses from blind people who probably noticed signs that no one else sees! I sent 2 appeals for theft of the car and 265 pounds, but did not receive a single response, ... what can I do next?

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