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Raykay

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Looking on the latest streetview picture, the pole is there but no parking sign attached, the sign is shown attached to it on earlier streetview pictures.

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Help me how to solve this problem through the court? Where to call, who to contact? From the very beginning I wrote appeals, proved that my car was not parked under the prohibition signs. There are poles for signs, but there are no signs themselves. I proved that in their pictures my car is not under the sign. In my appeals I asked to send me a form to resolve this issue in court or to explain to me how to resolve the issue through the court. But I did not receive a single answer! They asked for 65 for each of the 5 fines, then 130, then 190, and the last one again 65. As far as I understand, they are afraid of losing in court! How to go to court, help!

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@maks, take a deep breath, and stop panicking. You are in good (others, not mine) hands here. These people are the best experts in handling situations just such as yours, but they need all the information you can provide. The councils attach tickets and hope to scare people into paying by various tricks and threats. The most important items are all the PCNs ('parking tickets') that have been put on your car. They will look at these, and can help you construct a defence. The experts will analyse your tickets, assess them against the regulations and the Law and even write you a response and sometimes represent you in proceeding, depending what is needed. They will take you through the process step by step. All you need to do right now is to take a picture of both sides of every bit of paper you have been sent or had put on your car, upload them (to imgur.com preferably), post the links here and let the magicians get to work.
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John U.K.

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You have been silent since the beginning of December.
Unless you can give us some account with dates of what has happened in the intervening period we cannot even attempt to help. Try answering Enceladus' questions in post Reply#3 above. Or

For a start you could post here
copies ofthe front of each PCN,
copies ofthe remaining pages of one PCN.
copies of what you have written to the council,
copies of every subsequent document received from the council.

I am not sure you understand the enforcement process. Please have a read of
https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/understanding-enforcement-process/parking-penalty-charge-notice-enforcement-process

You need to act fast, as the next stage is likely to be bailiffs, which is both very messy and very expensive..

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You've posted none of the documents we need to see. Until you do we are totally in the dark. YOu last posted on December 6th last year

There is no "court", but if representations to the council are rejected you can appeal to the London Tribunals.

SO, please help us to help you or you'll eventually have bailiffs at your door.

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This is the last time they stole my car. I spent 2 days looking for my car and went to pick it up for 265 pounds!

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NEXT PN3987672A

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PN3987672A 130 POUNDS

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PN3987672A 195 pounds

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PN3987672A 195 pounds

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The first time I paid, took the car and filed an appeal. But I haven't received any answers for 3 months! The other 4 fines were 65, then 130, then 195 and the last ones asked for 65 pounds so as not to take it to court. Now they will try to steal the car again to intimidate me! I don't want to talk to them, only in court! Help me start a trial!

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I don't want to talk to them, only in court! Help me start a trial!
Except as I said, there is NO COURT and NO TRIALS !  What there is, is London Tribunals, where you can appeal the PCN to an adjudicator. If you win, you pay nothing, if you lose you must pay the PCN penalty.

You can only register an appeal at LT once you have had representations to the council rejected.  So if you don't submit representations to the council, you cannot register an appeal at LT.

So, for each PCN, please tell us whether you submitted representations or just paid, and whether you have registered an appeal at London Tribunals or not.

The bottom line is that if you don't follow the process, which is under civil, not criminal law, you will have bailiffs at your door seeking to seize property, and it's usually your car they sei=ze.

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 So if you don't submit representations to the council, you cannot register an appeal at LT. how to do this? I tried to make an appeal but they asked me What is your appeal verification code? I only have a web number in my letters, where can I get it verification code?

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So if you don't submit representations to the council, you cannot register an appeal at LT. how to do this? I tried to make an appeal but they asked me What is your appeal verification code? I only have a web number in my letters, where can I get it verification code?
You submit a formal representation to the Council against the Notice to Owner or the PCN for the vehicle removal. If the Council reject then they have to post a Notice of Rejection with instructions on how to appeal to the Adjudicator and a verification code. That's the code the LT are looking forward.

You cannot appeal without that a Notice of Rejection has been issued. And you won't receive the NoRs unless you have submitted a formal representation against an NTO, or exceptionally a representation against a removal PCN. The latter because you have to pay the PCN to release the vehicle and normally paying a PCN closes the case.

So where do you stand with each of your PCNs? Please post up a list.