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London Camden: Blue badge user gets ticket
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Quick bit of background on the driver which will explain the delay in posting up.
Driver is medically and culturally Deaf and communicates in BSL (British Sign Language)
For the unaware, while BSL is based on the English language, the grammatical structure is different which makes standard written English difficult for Deaf people to fully understand.
Driver has received some help in posting this up.

TDLR: Driver parked on double yellow lines near Euston Station after checking OK with blue badge and subsequently received parking ticket.

Long version:

Driver drove from his home in Hampshire to pick up his 91 year old mother who had travelled from her home in North Wales to visit her son. Due to the mother's age and severe disabilities (sight, hearing and mobility) she didn't feel that she could manage any changes, the only direct train without changes was to Euston. The driver received help checking online for available parking before travelling and the info received was that Euston station had free all day parking for blue badge holders (screenshot dated 1 week before travel to show this information)

The driver's mother's train was scheduled to arrive for 12.30pm on 17.06.26 and the driver arrived at Euston station at 12.10 to find that the car park didn't exist - we now know that the information he received was outdated and that there was no car park due to HS2 works being carried out. He had to detour around the station, less than 2 miles but in central London this took 30 minutes, he was now worrying that his being late, his mother wouldn't have any assistance arriving at the station.

On top of this, perhaps due to the stop start slow traffic in the heat, the automatic gearbox on his car started playing up, not engaging when traffic started moving - and breaking down in the middle of London would be an absolute disaster so he was panicking at this point. Eventually at 12.40pm he found a street close to the station, Endsleigh Gardens that is apparently in Camden, the parking sign stated the following: Mon - Fri 8.30am - 6.30pm Saturday 8.30am - 1.30pm. Pay by phone 020 3003 2532 quoting location 13420. Max stay 2 hours
Obviously making a telephone call for a deaf person without clear speech was not an option, there was no app option listed. He sent the photos of the parking sign and street name to a friend asking to quickly check if parking with a blue badge was OK here. The friend checked and sent the following screenshot which stated that there was no charge for parking with a blue badge at this location in Camden.
He placed his blue badge and time clock on the vehicle and left at 12.45pm.

Arriving at the station he found his mother being looked after by some station staff. It took some time for them to get back to the car as both have mobility issues, and when he got back to the car at 1.18pm he found there was a parking ticket on the windscreen. The ticket states observed from 12.46pm to 12.50pm a total of 4 minutes. It's felt however that the CEO was likely watching him and waiting for him to leave, quite visably disabled with mobility issues before going over to put the ticket on the car.

Apologies for the long winded explanation, some of which may or may not be relevant to any appeal.

Obviously we now know that info provided by Google can not always be relied on to be accurate, however in the case of the street parking information this was an emergency situation where the parking conditions of this street in Camden couldn't be strutinised in depth, and even now it seems an absolute minefield finding out whether you can park with a blue badge or not, we are still unclear whether he was permitted to park there with a blue badge or not.
The driver isn't a frequent visitor to London so is unfamiliar with parking rules there.

The 14 day window for a reduced penalty has passed and it's now beyond the 28 days too. No appeal has yet been made, the driver has asked friends for help and been referred to this forum.

Attached below is:
Info dated 10.6.26 about free disabled parking at Euston station car park.

[img width=800.0000610351562 height=642]https://i.postimg.cc/KjRKXnMj/Screenshot-2026-07-13-100149.png[/img]

The original PCN that was placed on the windscreen, front and back.




Photos of street name and parking sign.




Screenshots showing parking info for the location sent to the driver by a friend (time stamped)

[img width=184.00001525878906 height=600]https://i.postimg.cc/8CtxFW7s/IMG-20260617-WA0010.jpg[/img]


Any help and advice gratefully received.



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« Last Edit: July 13, 2026, 11:28:05 am by Endorfin »

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Re: London: Blue badge user gets ticket
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Apologies, it seems I miscalculated the 28 day period, it seems there is until 15th July to lodge an appeal?

Re: London Camden: Blue badge user gets ticket
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AIUI Camden has two different disabled parking schemes: one for blue badges called the blue zone and a second for green badges called the green zone

I think Endl#sleigh Gardens is in the green zone and therefore requires a green badge.

If you look at Camden's website rather than relying on an AI answer you'll see what I mean:  https://www.camden.gov.uk/where-you-can-and-cannot-park-with-a-blue-badge-in-camden

I'm no expert on parking so I can't help you any further but I'm sure others more knowlegeable than me will be along shortly to help your friend.


NB You imply your friend might have difficuty comprehending written signs in English because he has adopted a Deaf identity.  Could this have affected his understanding of the parking requirements?


 

Re: London Camden: Blue badge user gets ticket
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The authority must consider all reps before a NTO is served. They may not serve a NTO until the 28-day period has elapsed, in this case on 14th July.


It's felt however that the CEO was likely watching him and waiting for him to leave, quite visably disabled with mobility issues before going over to put the ticket on the car.

Really! I don't think so and IMO put this completely out of your friend's mind because otherwise it might affect the tone of their reps.

Anyone who has a driving licence is considered to have the necessary competence, therefore everything to do with their disabilities goes to mitigation(but see below), I would therefore suggest focusing on the substantive legal issues.

IMO, there are two at this level of reps:

1. The front of the PCN is unreadable and therefore does not convey the mandatory information. The issue of clarity and disabilities overlap here IMO.

2. The driver was engaged in the act of assisted boarding, which is an arguable defence.

I would add a third based upon this duty which falls to councils:

the order making authority shall take such steps as are necessary to secure—

(a)before the order comes into force, the placing on or near the road of such traffic signs in such positions as the order making authority may consider requisite for securing that adequate information as to the effect of the order is made available to persons using the road;

(b)the maintenance of such signs for so long as the order remains in force


IMO, a traffic sign in, as in this case, what's known as Camden's 'Green Zone' should indicate that the use of a BB does not apply. IMO, this warning must be present and a council may not fall back on 'it's on a website' because this takes us into the realms of external sources of info..and you've already quoted examples of how these can mislead.

In reps, I would put this third, perhaps using expressed as...'Given that my BB was displayed correctly, then I can only assume that for some reason its use of was not permissible in this bay. But how is a motorist supposed to know this because nothing on the sign or elsewhere in the vicinity gives this information?'

Just some thoughts.


Re: London Camden: Blue badge user gets ticket
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I will need to help the driver submit an appeal soon.

Taking on board the comments here and tincombe's observation that the ticket text was illegible (this is true, I'm unable to read the text beneath the black print) I reached out to Gemini to help me draft an appeal, which I paste below.

I will submitting this later today, unless anyone has any further suggestions. Many thanks.

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I am writing to challenge this Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) as the driver and Registered Keeper of the vehicle. I submit that this PCN must be cancelled on the grounds of procedural invalidity, a statutory boarding exemption, and inadequate signage.

1. Procedural Invalidity: Illegible PCN and Failure to Convey Statutory Information
Under Schedule 2 of the Civil Enforcement of Road Traffic Contraventions (England) Regulations 2022, a PCN must clearly state the mandatory information regarding payment periods, discount periods, and the consequences of non-payment.

As shown in the attached photograph of the physical PCN affixed to my vehicle, a significant portion of the mandatory statutory text is completely obscured. The heavy, black pre-printed template text (including the warning "IT IS A CRIMINAL OFFENCE...", the Camden logo, and "Traffic Management Act 2004") has been printed directly over the dynamic text.

As a result, the critical sentences explaining the 14-day discount period and the 28-day payment window are entirely unreadable and obscured. Because the PCN fails to clearly and legibly convey this mandatory statutory information, the notice is procedurally defective and legally unenforceable.

2. Statutory Exemption: Assisted Boarding of a Vulnerable Passenger
Even if the PCN were valid, the alleged contravention did not occur because the vehicle was engaged in the exempt activity of assisted boarding.

I had stopped my vehicle at Endsleigh Gardens for the sole purpose of collecting my 91-year-old mother from Euston Station. My mother is profoundly disabled, suffering from severe mobility, sight, and hearing impairments. She required physical assistance from station staff and myself to transfer from the station platform to my vehicle.

Under established parking law and precedent, the boarding exemption permits a vehicle to wait for as long as necessary to collect a passenger. For elderly, highly vulnerable, or disabled passengers, this exemption explicitly includes the time required for the driver to leave the vehicle unattended, enter the station terminal, locate the passenger, and escort them back to the car.

The CEO’s observation time of just 4 minutes (12:46 PM to 12:50 PM) was wholly inadequate to accommodate the assisted collection of a severely disabled 91-year-old passenger from a major, complex terminal like Euston.

3. Failure to Provide Adequate Roadside Signage (The "Green Zone" Restriction)
I parked my vehicle in good faith, displaying my Blue Badge and time clock correctly. I have since been informed that Endsleigh Gardens falls within Camden’s local "Green Zone," where standard Blue Badges are restricted.

However, under the Local Authorities' Traffic Orders (Regulations) 1996, the council has a strict duty to place and maintain signs that secure "adequate information as to the effect of the order" to road users.

There was absolutely nothing on the physical roadside sign, nor anywhere in the vicinity of the bay, indicating that standard Blue Badges are excluded or that "Green Zone" rules apply. A motorist cannot be expected to consult external council websites to uncover hidden local variations when the physical sign on the street indicates a standard pay-by-phone bay. Because the signs failed to convey the effect of the traffic order, the restriction is unenforceable.

4. Failure to Make Reasonable Adjustments (Equality Act 2010)
I am culturally and medically Deaf. The bay signage directed users to pay exclusively via a voice telephone number. This voice-only payment method presented an absolute communication barrier, making compliance physically impossible for me. No non-verbal alternative (such as SMS or text-to-pay instructions) was provided on the sign. This constitutes a direct failure to provide "reasonable adjustments" for disabled motorists under Section 20 of the Equality Act 2010.

For these reasons, I request that this invalid PCN be cancelled immediately.
« Last Edit: July 14, 2026, 02:31:06 pm by Endorfin »

Re: London Camden: Blue badge user gets ticket
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The green zone issue won't work - the blue badge book is clear about checking for BB parking rules in any local authority and four London boroughs are included as having special rules/zones. But you can point out that the expectation of a car park meant it was felt unnecessary to check.

Camden does use discretion for BB holders in the green zone - I would tone down the formality and make it shorter and use conversational language more applicable to an informal challenge, while still stressing there are two statutory grounds for cancellation (PCN printing, assisted boarding). 
« Last Edit: July 14, 2026, 03:09:56 pm by stamfordman »

Re: London Camden: Blue badge user gets ticket
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Agree about the tone.

I received a PCN the front of which is unreadable, see enclosed.

I understand stamfordman's argument, but I think the point is arguable where, as in this case, only part of a council's area falls within the BB exemption. As the OP said, they had to drive around just to find a parking place which means that their actual final parking place was unknown when they started.

How could anyone carry out targeted online research in this situation? 

Re: London Camden: Blue badge user gets ticket
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How could anyone carry out targeted online research in this situation?

That's why I said the circumstances of finding no car park can be stated. But this doesn't render local parking rules set out/flagged in the BB book as inapplicable. It's mitigation and in the absence of the other issues could be recommended as compelling by an adjudicator as, usually, BB holders have free parking in pay bays.


Re: London Camden: Blue badge user gets ticket
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As I've read elsewhere, the BB booklet is guidance, not the law.

I would contend that the regulatory requirements of LATOR are not set aside by the Exemption for Disabled Persons regs:

These Regulations replace the Local Authorities
legislation.gov.uk


A,B and C are straightforward.
 Each of the following is an excepted area–

(a)the City of London;

(b)the City of Westminster;

(c)the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea;


As for D..

(d)that part of the London borough of Camden, bounded by and including the borough boundary, Euston Road, Upper Woburn Place, Tavistock Square, Woburn Place, Russell Square, Southampton Row, Theobalds Road and Clerkenwell Road.

Re: London Camden: Blue badge user gets ticket
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The appeal window was still open this morning and I've submitted the appeal, the response box was limited to 1,000 characters.

Due to time limits, I was unable to run the concised draft here first, but this is what was posted, along with the supporting evidence. Hopefully Camden Council will be empathetic to the circumstances.

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PCN is unreadable: As shown in the photo, the printer overlaid heavy black template text over the details, completely obscuring my payment/discount windows. This procedural defect makes it invalid.

Assisted boarding: I was collecting my 91yo disabled mother from Euston (train ticket attached). Under assisted boarding exemptions, I can leave the car to assist a vulnerable passenger. A 4-minute observation is not enough time to find and escort her from the station.

Emergency: I planned ahead (see June 10 screenshot) travelling from Hampshire but Euston's car park was gone due to HS2. My gearbox began failing in gridlock traffic. Fearing breakdown & leaving my mother stranded, I parked in Endsleigh Gardens, displaying my Blue Badge. Being deaf (BSL user without clear speech) voice-only pay-by-phone was an impossible barrier. Emergency Google search (attached time stamped screenshot) said parking was free; no street signs warned of 'Green Zone' rules.
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Re: London Camden: Blue badge user gets ticket
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That looks good - short and to the point.