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Re: Forty Ln/Mount Dr HA9 ticket for being in a BUS lane during an event day
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Hello,

i have only 1 more week to reply, I will be travelling for work from Sunday so i would need to send in my representation by tomorrow ideally. COuld someone please offer advise if the above response/representation from me is sufficient and comprehensive?
any advise would be welcomed. thank you
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Re: Forty Ln/Mount Dr HA9 ticket for being in a BUS lane during an event day
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That looks ok to me. They are likely to reject whatever you say, but that unlocks the next stage is where an independent adjudicator will actually pay attention to what you wrote instead of fobbing you off.

If you wanted to go a little harder you might add this:

3. I am shocked by your insistance that a motorist should access a website when they see your signage, as doing so would constitute an offence under section 2 110. (1)(a) of the The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) (Amendment) (No. 4) Regulations 2003. If you continue to assett that motorists "can check the Wembley event dates on the Wembley Stadium website" in your response, I require you to explain what exemption to the law allows this. I remind you that the Regulation also states:

(2) No person shall cause or permit any other person to drive a motor vehicle on a road while that other person is using—
(a) a hand-held mobile telephone...

If you do not accept that you are wrong about this, I reserve the rght to do exactly as you say and report that I have done so to the Police stating that you are the person who has permitted it.
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Re: Forty Ln/Mount Dr HA9 ticket for being in a BUS lane during an event day
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Please hold fire and don't send any of your proposed draft. PM sent.
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If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

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Re: Forty Ln/Mount Dr HA9 ticket for being in a BUS lane during an event day
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Quote from: Marzia on March 16, 2026, 05:00:54 pm
Good evening,

please see below my intended response to the EN, I would be grateful for any feedback before i send off:
Dear Sir/Madam, I make representations on the following grounds: The contravention did not occur.

1. As the Authority will see from their evidence (pictures and Video), there were no signs to indicate the 29/11/2025 was an event day. The council states that there are digital warning signs on the main routes into the event zone, however none were noted on my route; furthermore ‘digital warning signs’ are not part of the statutory signage, motorists are under a duty to obey traffic signs, as listed in the TSRGD

2. The Council suggests motorists have a responsibility to check the Wembley Stadium website to check for event dates, however this is not correct. Drivers have the duty to adhere to statutory signage and obey to statutory signs, not check websites.

For completion I request for the council to supply a copy of the camera certification.

As per the Schedule 1 of the London Local Authorities Act 1996 Admissability of certain evidence 7 (6), I insist attendance at the hearing or trial of the person who signed the document.

NO! I will take a look later.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Forty Ln/Mount Dr HA9 ticket for being in a BUS lane during an event day
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Issue 1.

London Local Authorities Act 1996
legislation.gov.uk


(3)A penalty charge notice under this Part of this Act must state—

(a)the grounds on which the council believe that the penalty charge is payable with respect to the vehicle;

(b)the amount of the penalty charge which is payable;

(c)that the penalty charge must be paid before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of the notice;

(d)that if the penalty charge is paid before the end of the period of 14 days beginning with the date of the notice, the amount of the penalty charge will be reduced by the specified proportion;

(e)that, if the penalty charge is not paid before the end of the 28 day period, an enforcement notice may be served by the council on the person appearing to them to be the owner of the vehicle;

They confuse the issue by stating this correctly and then stating they WILL send one.

Issue 2.

Initial letter of rejection corroborates this latter error.

Issue 3.

EN conflates service with delivery. Deemed date of service is 10th March so we count day 1 from then. 6th April.

Back later re the video and signage - or lack of rather.
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I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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