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Hey folks ,
I received a PCN through post for 'Failing to comply with a restriction'
Are there any grounds for appeal here ?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mXm_qoYq9RABJsUWoqDTILwbuZbXlKrs/view?usp=drive_link
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There could well be grounds for submitting representations and also an appeal at London Tribunals, but we need to see the video.  Looking on their website, one can only view the video by entry of a web-code that is on the postal PCN. I can't see one on the front page, so it must be on another page somewhere. Please advise code, or download the video yourself and post it here.

 The photo on the PCN shows you turning left into the restriction, so there really should be an advance warning sign; is there one ?

Google Street View latest is May 2019, and doesn't show the restriction, so we really need to see some photos taken by yourself, if this is possible ?
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Please post up all of the PCN as there are currently two issues with their moving traffic PCNs regarding two wrong grounds.

As Incandescent advised.

If the PCN is shown to us, this would be my suggestion; but we need the information please.

I make these formal representations against PCN
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1. The PCN contains two lists of grounds, one of which wrongly includes a ground re the traffic order being invalid which, itself, invalidates the PCN.  Further, in both lists there is yet another ground which is incorrect as it too belongs to another legislation: the vehicle had been permitted to rest etc.

2. There is no evidence of a sign allegedly passed and so it follows that the PCN does not particularise what vehicles are prohibited.

3. The PCN does not include the option to pay by post.

Therefore, in light of the above, please cancel it as the PCN is unenforceable. Should you not agree to do so, I will take the matter to adjudication if necessary.
« Last Edit: August 01, 2024, 11:40:38 am by Hippocrates »
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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Hi..I clicked this picture by myself if this helps ..
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12WQsUtHCp8my9B5Sm38OhzWWFwmn5VZP/view?usp=drivesdk many thanks
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Appeal filed.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2024, 06:04:52 pm by Hippocrates »
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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 ;D 2240429186

I said nothing! Really. I was observing one of mrmustard's cases and was summoned in. Must be the shirt.  8)
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

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