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Re: Enfield council, 34J Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement), BULLSMOOR LANE EN1 EN3
« Reply #15 on: »
Let me think. cp8759 won a case re this council a few months back due to messed up evidence and an incredible refusal to attend, which they did in the end!
« Last Edit: July 15, 2025, 03:23:22 pm by Hippocrates »
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Re: Enfield council, 34J Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement), BULLSMOOR LANE EN1 EN3
« Reply #16 on: »
1. I retract my previous informal challenge.

2. The video shows no evidence of my vehicle allegedly passing any upright warning signage at all. Therefore, the contravention did not occur.

3. The 1996 Act allows me to use "one or other grounds". So, your EN limits to one.

4. The date of service is not necessarily the deemed date of delivery, Again, I refer you to the law in this regard.

Considering the above, please cancel both documents.
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Re: Enfield council, 34J Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement), BULLSMOOR LANE EN1 EN3
« Reply #17 on: »
Has the Enforcement Notice been challenged?

Just had this back from the council:

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Re: Enfield council, 34J Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement), BULLSMOOR LANE EN1 EN3
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Quote from: cp8759 on August 03, 2025, 03:30:03 pm
Has the Enforcement Notice been challenged?

Just had this back from the council:

[img width=915.5 height=236]https://i.imgur.com/eyOsXMe.png[/img]

Hi,

Yes I have challenged it based on the information Hippocrates gave me.

I don't understand, I went onto the link and still shows no sign?

Thanks
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Re: Enfield council, 34J Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement), BULLSMOOR LANE EN1 EN3
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Quote from: beatthecase on August 03, 2025, 07:05:27 pm
I don't understand, I went onto the link and still shows no sign?
What link?
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Re: Enfield council, 34J Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement), BULLSMOOR LANE EN1 EN3
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Quote from: cp8759 on August 03, 2025, 08:55:58 pm
Quote from: beatthecase on August 03, 2025, 07:05:27 pm
I don't understand, I went onto the link and still shows no sign?
What link?

The link in the image you sent? It shows the camera at the end of the bus lane but there is no signage?

Is there something wrong?

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Re: Enfield council, 34J Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement), BULLSMOOR LANE EN1 EN3
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Quote from: beatthecase on August 03, 2025, 09:11:59 pm
Is there something wrong?
That link identifies the CCTV camera, not the location of any signs. The point is that we now know the council must provide a certificate for a SEA RoadFlow Flexi Camera, if they provide a certificate for any other sort of camera then we can have the evidence thrown out as inadmissible.
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Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Enfield council, 34J Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement), BULLSMOOR LANE EN1 EN3
« Reply #22 on: »
Quote from: cp8759 on August 03, 2025, 11:10:02 pm
Quote from: beatthecase on August 03, 2025, 09:11:59 pm
Is there something wrong?
That link identifies the CCTV camera, not the location of any signs. The point is that we now know the council must provide a certificate for a SEA RoadFlow Flexi Camera, if they provide a certificate for any other sort of camera then we can have the evidence thrown out as inadmissible.

Hi All,

I have a reply from the council regarding the appeal I made a month ago, please see below.

Sorry for the late submission, I was on holiday.







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Re: Enfield council, 34J Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement), BULLSMOOR LANE EN1 EN3
« Reply #23 on: »
Please post a copy of what you wrote in your reps.
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Re: Enfield council, 34J Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement), BULLSMOOR LANE EN1 EN3
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Quote from: John U.K. on September 02, 2025, 01:27:58 pm
Please post a copy of what you wrote in your reps.

Hi,

Please see below

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Re: Enfield council, 34J Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement), BULLSMOOR LANE EN1 EN3
« Reply #25 on: »
@beatthecase I say Tribunal time. I'll PM you my details. Failure to consider for starters. I have not lost a bus lane case in  the last 4 years and, if I lose, I will pay half.
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

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Re: Enfield council, 34J Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement), BULLSMOOR LANE EN1 EN3
« Reply #26 on: »
the photos are of signs that are prior to a junction with a road on the right, kingsfield way, and prior to 2 breaks in the bus lane for entrances on the left both prior the service road that starts at No 73, to the left of the OPs car as seen in the council video. there is no such sign at the start of the service road out side No 73 where the contravention is alledged. the pole is there but no sign, been like that for a few years.
if you turned right out of kingsfield in the direction of the OPs travel you would not pass a bus lane sign.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2025, 01:00:49 pm by mickR »
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Re: Enfield council, 34J Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement), BULLSMOOR LANE EN1 EN3
« Reply #27 on: »
Next on my list.
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If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
Re: Enfield council, 34J Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement), BULLSMOOR LANE EN1 EN3
« Reply #28 on: »
Just prodding myself as a reminder.
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
Re: Enfield council, 34J Being in a bus lane (camera enforcement), BULLSMOOR LANE EN1 EN3
« Reply #29 on: »
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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