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PCN Waltham Forest Code 40 Parked in disabled bay without badge
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I'm in Waltham Forest and my street requires permits between 10am and 4pm. We have a blue badge and a disabled bay which the car is usually parked in, so we apply for the blue badge exemption each year.  This enables us to park on the road or in the bay without having to display the badge. This expired on the 10th and I have been speaking to the council to get it validated since the 9th.

Meanwhile, I displayed the blue badge between 10am and 4pm, totally forgetting that the disabled bay isn't covered by the same timings. Lo and behold I received a PCN at 7am this morning.

Link to images attached.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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« Last Edit: January 12, 2024, 05:24:52 pm by samislango »

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Re: PCN Waltham Forest Code 40 Parked in disabled bay without badge
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get and post all the council photos

Re: PCN Waltham Forest Code 40 Parked in disabled bay without badge
« Reply #2 on: »
?
Blue badges last for 3 years.
The restriction is not timed, does not have max. length of stay therefore if you are parked in a BB bay you can do so just by displaying the badge itself.

Therefore 'Meanwhile, I displayed the blue badge between 10am and 4pm, totally forgetting that the disabled bay isn't covered by the same timings. Lo and behold I received a PCN at 7am this morning.'

You removed your BB or was it still visible?

At present, I can't follow the account.

Also, I've never heard of 'a blue badge exemption, but you hold and were displaying one anyway!

Re: PCN Waltham Forest Code 40 Parked in disabled bay without badge
« Reply #3 on: »
I've updated the link with all the pictures.

As a Blue badge holder I can apply for an annual blue badge resident permit. This means I don't need to display the badge to park on my road.

The badge was not on display overnight while the car was parked in the disabled bay.

Re: PCN Waltham Forest Code 40 Parked in disabled bay without badge
« Reply #4 on: »
So if your exemption had expired then you can only ask for discretion as a BB holder entitled to the pass. But then if the want to play hardball the PCN states the wrong period for payment saying date of service whilst the regulations state date of contravention most times these will be the same but not always and has won at tribunal 

Re: PCN Waltham Forest Code 40 Parked in disabled bay without badge
« Reply #5 on: »
Thanks, I will lodge representations. However knowing WF they will reject it.

Re: PCN Waltham Forest Code 40 Parked in disabled bay without badge
« Reply #6 on: »
Hang on.  Please show us your draft first.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: PCN Waltham Forest Code 40 Parked in disabled bay without badge
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Hang on.  Please show us your draft first.

I sent this message earlier today.



Good morning,

I have received a PCN for parking in the disabled bay outside my house.

I am in the process of applying for a blue badge permit. I was waiting on the V5c document to be sent by Motability operations. This is a new requirement which is why I wasn't able to get the permit on time.

I have attached a copy of the blue badge for your information.

The permits team have given me this email and have told me to explain that I am applying for a permit, in the hopes the PCN will be cancelled.

Please can you kindly let me know if the PCN will be cancelled.

Re: PCN Waltham Forest Code 40 Parked in disabled bay without badge
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Good morning,

I have received a PCN for parking in the disabled bay outside my house.

I am in the process of applying for a blue badge permit. I was waiting on the V5c document to be sent by Motability operations. This is a new requirement which is why I wasn't able to get the permit on time.

I have attached a copy of the blue badge for your information.

The permits team have given me this email and have told me to explain that I am applying for a permit, in the hopes the PCN will be cancelled.


Furthermore, the PCN itself contains a procedural error that invalidates it. Schedule 2 paragraph 2 states
(d)that the penalty charge must be paid within the period of 28 days beginning with the date on which the alleged contravention occurred; but, the PCN I received states that payment is due within 28 days from the date of service, not the date of the alleged contravention. This discrepancy constitutes a procedural impropriety that renders the PCN invalid. I refer you to the law @:
 
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2022/71/schedule/2

In view of the above, please cancel the PCN.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: PCN Waltham Forest Code 40 Parked in disabled bay without badge
« Reply #9 on: »
I would not use the technical argument at this stage you are asking them to use discretion so don't antagonise them

Re: PCN Waltham Forest Code 40 Parked in disabled bay without badge
« Reply #10 on: »
I've just had an email cancelling the charge!

Re: PCN Waltham Forest Code 40 Parked in disabled bay without badge
« Reply #11 on: »
Well done ! We don't often see councils cancelling PCN on receipt of reps. Maybe the head of parking had a promise for the evening !

Re: PCN Waltham Forest Code 40 Parked in disabled bay without badge
« Reply #12 on: »
Thank you!

I was really surprised as Waltham Forest are notorious for ignoring representations.

This is part of the reply

"Thank you for your correspondence in regards to the Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) as
mentioned above.
The evidence you have supplied is sufficient and I can confirm that I have on this occasion
cancelled your PCN."