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Re: East Riding of Yorkshire Council: CPZ: Code 30: One permit two cars
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Not sure that the CEO has sussed me out

The terms and conditions are quiet clear "Residents can change the VRM on the permit as often as they wish"



I think the issue is that the council system does not appear to able to cope with the change(s) and keep the CEO's electronic device informed of the changes

When I purchased a permit, I entered a contract, the terms and conditions form part of the contract

Steve
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The formal appeal has  been rejected

I will post the rejection letter on here in the next couple of days

Is there a document available that gives advice on appealing to The Traffic Tribunal

Struggling a little bit as I'm on holiday past the deadline to submit  and posting from a tablet

Steve
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Apologises for the backgrounds

















Any advice appreciated

Steve :)
« Last Edit: June 04, 2026, 05:57:16 pm by Steve from Beverley »
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It's now either cough-up or register an appeal at the Traffic Penalty Tribunal. There is no discount option at the TPT, so the full PCN penalty will be in play.

Submit an appeal - Traffic Penalty Tribunal
We offer an online service that allows you to submit an appeal against a ticket or Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) on a device of your choice.
Traffic Penalty Tribunal · trafficpenaltytribunal.gov.uk
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I don't think the discount has been reoffered, in which case there's no incentive not to appeal!

Deadline to appeal is, I think, 24 June.  What are your dates away?

Based on their logic, they could note you parked without a permit at 9.01am, you could add a permit at 9.02am, they could check you every hour during the day, all while confirming a valid permit is in force, then you remove the permit at 4.58pm and they serve a PCN at 4.59pm.

They've also admitted that you were legally parked while you had a permit (i.e. at 12pm) but then said the 10 minute grace period started at 11.54pm at a time during which you were covered by a permit.  It should start from the point your period of permitted parking ceases which by definition cannot be a time while your vehicle is covered by a valid permit.

As the legislation says:
"No penalty charge is payable for the contravention where the vehicle has been left beyond the permitted parking period for a period not exceeding 10 minutes."
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IMO, register an appeal.

1. Contravention did not occur;
2. Procedural impropriety.

As regards 1, Mr. Chips and other have explained why the council's received wisdom position is wrong. You should get the adjudicator to confirm this by allowing your appeal on these grounds because this might(I say this more in hope than expectation) get the council to change its mindset and thus prevent further occurrences;

As regards 2, the NOR is required to state your appeal rights. Their NOR doesn't. In as much as your timeframe for registering a statutory(as opposed to discretionary) appeal is concerned, this is misstated in their notice ('within 28 days of service' is incorrect), there is no reference to a discretionary appeal and neither does the notice advise you regarding costs which may be awarded against you or the authority subject to conditions.

The authority cannot finesse these errors by claiming that 'our website will explain this further' because the 'our' is not the council, it's the tribunal; they've lifted that part straight from the tribunal's publications. But a NOR must be self-contained.
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