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Hi i received a ticket for driving on a bus lane on the 25th of December I drove there having seen this previously  where it clearly states that TFL does not enforce bus lanes on Christmas.

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Re: TFL Bus lane ticket on Christmas day
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This is easily beatable, and not just on the FOI letter, but it's a speciality of 'Hippocrates', so I'll let him explain it. You must be prepared to forego the discount, though, as TfL almost never give way, and I suspect they won't even when they can see their own officer's name on the letter.
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Please: the whole of the PCN.
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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Quote from: Hippocrates on January 08, 2026, 08:28:23 pm
Please: the whole of the PCN.

Thanks for being here to help




« Last Edit: January 09, 2026, 10:56:11 am by gimpel »
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There's another page please.
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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Use this as a basic draft but omit the part about camera authorisation for the moment.

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/tfl-bus-lane-contravention-n-circular-rd-btw-chequers-way-green-lanes/msg30167/#msg30167

You can mention the FOIR but be careful not to admit to driving on the bus lane because of it. Say you saw it AFTER the alleged incident and I would make a fresh one in any case to see if it has been amended.

NB: In this law, if it goes the full distance, they MUST attend a hearing to answer my questions or their evidence is inadmissible. AFAIR I have done about 5, 3 not contested and 2 won because they messed up.  In any event, in my discussions with @cp8759 they have staffing problems currently so may well choose the former course of action. But, be prepared for the long game.
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: TFL Bus lane ticket on Christmas day
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Thanks

Can you kindly explain why i shouldn't use the FOIR
just to get the knowledge
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Quote from: gimpel on January 09, 2026, 11:44:25 am
Thanks

Can you kindly explain why i shouldn't use the FOIR
just to get the knowledge

Hi i received a ticket for driving on a bus lane on the 25th of December I drove there having seen this previously  where it clearly states that TFL does not enforce bus lanes on Christmas.

This heavily implies you drove into the bus lane deliberately. I did not say you shouldn't use the link. I said maybe AFTER the alleged incident. You could ask them a question about it or indeed make another fresh FOIR.
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: TFL Bus lane ticket on Christmas day
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Quote from: Hippocrates on January 09, 2026, 04:51:28 pm
Quote from: gimpel on January 09, 2026, 11:44:25 am
Thanks

Can you kindly explain why i shouldn't use the FOIR
just to get the knowledge

Hi i received a ticket for driving on a bus lane on the 25th of December I drove there having seen this previously  where it clearly states that TFL does not enforce bus lanes on Christmas.

This heavily implies you drove into the bus lane deliberately. I did not say you shouldn't use the link. I said maybe AFTER the alleged incident. You could ask them a question about it or indeed make another fresh FOIR.

Tfl Has rejected my appeal any advice for me for next steps below is some links to images i do apologise that i cant embed it at the moment do to the Techloq filter on my PC i will change it soon when i get to an open device

https://ibb.co/sddSfY82
https://ibb.co/2YhJdLkd
https://ibb.co/rKhjLnmH
https://ibb.co/nqDS87cg
https://ibb.co/SwJTBryH
« Last Edit: February 06, 2026, 12:29:40 pm by gimpel »
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Quote from: gimpel on February 06, 2026, 12:11:38 pm

Tfl Has rejected my appeal any advice for me for next steps below is some links to images i do apologise that i cant embed it at the moment do to the Techloq filter on my PC i will change it soon when i get to an open device

https://ibb.co/sddSfY82
https://ibb.co/2YhJdLkd
https://ibb.co/rKhjLnmH
https://ibb.co/nqDS87cg
https://ibb.co/SwJTBryH

Please check the links as I'm unable to open them.
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Quote from: catnip on February 06, 2026, 04:57:36 pm

Please check the links as I'm unable to open them.

appears to have been a temporary blip - seems to be working now.
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Is there a bus service using the bus lane on Christmas Day ?
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