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Hi all,

My wife got a parking ticket, if you could help me with it I'd really appreciate it. Details:

- PCN: AG98070968
- Vehicle Registration Number: VN69 AZP
- Contravention Code: 34j - Being in a bus lane
- Location: East Finchley High Road (Google maps link, from 2012 so out-of-date though)
- Date of the notice: 11/02/2026

I've put a PDF of the letter from Barnet Council and some additional photos here

My wife was driving north up East Finchley High Road. There is a bus lane which starts just before East Finchley Tube Station, so she moved into the right hand lane meant for cars. There are bollards separating the bus lane from the right hand lane, several of these have been knocked down, so my wife took this to mean that the bus lane had ended and moved into the bus lane. It was dark and rainy so she didn't see that the end of bus lane sign was not till further up. She realised her mistake when she saw other cars waiting to move into the left lane further down the road (where the end of bus lane sign is).

I've taken some photographs of the bus lane signs (see evidence here), I noticed a couple of things that might be relevant:
Start of bus lane warning signs - the 'bus lane cameras' sign is facing the wrong way, i.e. it is not visible to oncoming traffic at all (see photos 1a and 1b)
The bus lane warning sign after the bus lane resumes past the tube station is partially obscured by a 'HIGH ROAD EAST FINCHLEY WELCOME' sign from Barnet Council
Thanks again
Kind Regards
Tom

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The blue bus lane signs are mandatory, but not the camera signs. I think you may have to take this one on the chin, sorry to have to say it, unless you are prepared to take them to London Tribunals where you could win based on a little-known clause in the Act governing London bus lane enforcement.


Thanks @Incandsescent, much appreciated.

I'm prepared to take it to London Tribunals, if there is a fighting chance of winning the appeal. So, if you have any more details please let me know.

Hi @Incandescent @Hippocrates

Barnet have just rejected my enforcement letter appeal, so I was wondering if you could help me with the submission to London Tribunals? I've put the correspondence with Barnet Council here

My enforcement letter appeal arguments were:
1. Lack of video evidence of the vehicle passing an upright sign - their comment was 'there is no requirement for the enforcement video to capture a vehicle passing a specific sign'
2. Obscured warning sign - they conceded this but then said that the combination of signs and road markings were still sufficient to warn motorists of restrictions
3. The bus lane has significant breaks and also the words 'BUS LANE' are no longer fully visible; they argue that these are minor defects and the bus lane is still clearly delineated

I also asked for evidence that the video camera used to collect the PCN video was a prescribed device - they declined, saying they did not have to.

I think my arguments are above are still valid, so I'm planning to include those in my London Tribunals submission. I am also considering using the clause in the London Local Authorities Act 1996 mentioned by you here ; do you think it is a good idea to use this, and if so how do I use it, i.e. include it in my London Tribunals letter or wait till afterwards?

Any help appreciated

Tom

Hang on a minute. I am busy with two cases this pm but will offer to represent you. Do not mention any clause to them!

I will PM you my details now.
@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"

On the case.
@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"