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First thing what proof would you have re time of purchase?

Before we finalise advice get and post the video

 ATM it would say You can make representations but do this on two grounds Firstly that the PCN is out of time and then that in any case you were not the owner

but lets see the video first

Ok thanks, I'm trying to find a way to get the video or images of the contravention but it doesn't seem to be available online? Am i wrong?
The letter advises to send a request via post which is unbelievable in this age... I'll try to give them a ring or something tomorrow.

In terms of proof I think I only have a screenshot of the bank transaction which shows 14/10/2023 18:20.
Sadly the contract we signed only had the date but not the time.
It was from a private seller so there wasn't much paperwork going around and we mostly spoke via phone calls, especially on the date of sale. The last 2 phone calls I received from him were on 17:04 (letting me know he's on the way) and 17:13 (letting me know he's around the corner to pick me up).

Oh and I also have the previous owner's V5C photos, taken 18:16 while we were filling in the paperwork.

Also the vehicle was still taxed and insured under the previous owner when I took it home.

It seems to me you have enough evidence of the time of taking ownership, to submit a credible representation. You'll have to give the vendor's name and address of course.

I suggest you type up a draft and put it on here for review.

That is a total and utter failure to consider in my view.

They ask for proof but don't in anyway question the proof you yave provided.

They are saying they will reconsider on proof, it may be worthwhile doing that though others may have a different view.

That could avoid a trip to the tribunal.

What proof did you send ?

What do you mean? I submitted what evidence I have in my representation.
From their reply it looks like they didn't look at it...

Not sure how to proceed tbh, would an adjudicator consider it or is it simply not sufficient?

If you go to tribunal the full penalty will be at stake.

An oral hearing is recommended rather than a written one. That is inconvenient of course.

You evidence looks solid to me. I would also add screenshots of the message exchange, hopefully they are timed and show you had arranged to meet after the time of the contravention.

I would also try and get a date and time of the owner change from DVLA. I would do this both via the online contact (they then reply by email) and also a subject access request.

I appreciate you can make it go away for £35, but I personally would rather end up paying the full penalty than that.

I would include failure to consider. It is obcious they haven't. You supplied most of what they are asking for.

They gave you an "out" to provide that information (again) did you try it?

It would show how reasonable you are and unreasonable they are if again rejected.

Do not let any dealines expire for tribunal, otherwuse you lose by default.