Author Topic: (BUS LANE) ENFORCEMENT NOTICE - REJECTION OF APPEAL - CHARLTON CHURCH LANE JNC WITH BARNEY CLOSE  (Read 68 times)

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Good afternoon everyone, I hope you are well,

I have appealed for a bus lane ticket, but my representation has been rejected:

For context, I have a wide bodykit conversion on my car which totals it's width to 6'8"; and my navigation (which has been set to avoid such routes) lead me to a 6'6" width restrictor, in Chalrton, South East London.

Also, the road I turned in from has zero Advance Warning Signs indicating this width restrictor is approaching (Which the council admits) so there is no way to know that this is approaching.

I simply used the bus designated lane, to the left of the width restrictors, for a total of 3 seconds in total and then moved right back into the primary lane, in order to avoid inevitable damage to my car and to the council's property.

I believed that performing a U-turn at that location was not the safest option and could have posed a risk to other road users, but according to the council, I should have turned into another road once I saw the width restrictors ahead, I find this invalid as if it was 7'0" restrictors I could have gone in without issue, but due to no advance warning signs I did not know what the size would be until I was approaching them directly,

Do you think this is worth a further appeal to the traffic adjudicator, or should I just pay the increased £160 charge now. Gutted as it was not a deliberate attempt to use the bus lane to try gain advantage etc. just a true attempt at trying to drive in the manner which was most suitable at the time,

Thank you!

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Notice of Rejection:
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Why pay the £160 now when it is a no-brainer to take them to London Tribunals for the same amount. There are no additional costs, and you could win based on their inadequate signage. 

Can you please post the PCN or EN, as we need to see it/them. If it is served under the London Local Authorities Act 1996, there is a little-known feature of it that could see you win on a technicality.

Hippocrates is expert in this so will no doubt PM you to explain.

Seen PM. yes I will assist at the Tribunal.
@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"

By coincidence I am going to Charlton Church lane now, if you need any photos, let me know.

What was your route to restriction?

i.e.  Did you drive all the way down Charlton Church Lane, or arrive from a side road?     

I believe I am taking care of this one as from today. As Greenwich do watch, best stay silent re route etc.
@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"