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Re: Contravention 26 for being parked 50cm from edge of carriageway?
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15 inch tyres means the silver part of the wheel is 38cm diameter.

Looks borderline to me, but I'd say the onus is on the council to prove the allegation not you to defend it. It wouldn't be beyond the wit of man for the council to provide their CEOs with a 50cm tape measure they could use in their photos.

Re: Contravention 26 for being parked 50cm from edge of carriageway?
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Travelling doesn't preclude you accessing a tape measure, does it?

If others know the dimension, perhaps they'll chip in.

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Re: Contravention 26 for being parked 50cm from edge of carriageway?
« Reply #17 on: »
195 (wide) 55 15 (rim diameter)

55 is the ratio between the sidewall height and width in % so the tyre height is:

55 x 195 /100 = 107.25mm = 10.725cm.

So diameter is 38cm rim + 2 x 10.7 = 59.4cm.

At least that's what I think.

Re: Contravention 26 for being parked 50cm from edge of carriageway?
« Reply #18 on: »
Yes. A 195/55R15 tyre has a diameter of 594mm when brand new.

And the PCN is for parking more than 50cm from the edge of the carriageway. Doesn't that mean 50cm measured from the kerbstones and not from the yellow line?
« Last Edit: August 14, 2025, 12:52:40 am by Enceladus »

Re: Contravention 26 for being parked 50cm from edge of carriageway?
« Reply #19 on: »
Diameter of tyre is 59cm.

I'm still confident the car is not more than 50cm from the nearest point on the kerb. The fact the kerb line slopes away makes it look worse than it is. If the kerb continued in a straight line, there's no way it would be considered more than 50cm away.

Re: Contravention 26 for being parked 50cm from edge of carriageway?
« Reply #20 on: »
A good measure would be whatever the width of the yellow line is. It's in TSRGD, but I'd reckon 7.5cm. (3inches in old money).
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Re: Contravention 26 for being parked 50cm from edge of carriageway?
« Reply #21 on: »
Evening all,

As expected, Greenwich standardly refused my appeal.

I will take it to tribunal, would be really grateful for any advice.

Re: Contravention 26 for being parked 50cm from edge of carriageway?
« Reply #22 on: »
If the width of a front number plate is 520mm 

(according to this)

Then this picture would seem to confirm that the car was parked greater than 500mm from kerb, and therefore in contravention.

IMO To appeal successfully would rely on a **** up on the council's part.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2025, 12:48:26 am by JoCo »

Re: Contravention 26 for being parked 50cm from edge of carriageway?
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Greenwich have to prove their case, doubt should be exercised in your favour but much depends on which adjudicator you get. The only way to pay nothing is to start an Appeal at the tribunal so just do it.
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Re: Contravention 26 for being parked 50cm from edge of carriageway?
« Reply #24 on: »
Greenwich have to prove their case, doubt should be exercised in your favour but much depends on which adjudicator you get. The only way to pay nothing is to start an Appeal at the tribunal so just do it.

Thank you. Any salient points I should mention?

Re: Contravention 26 for being parked 50cm from edge of carriageway?
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Thank you. Any salient points I should mention?

In my view you don't have a defence (on the facts) as IMO you were clearly parked more than 50cm from kerb (see my post above).

However it is Greenwich who need to make the case of your contravention.

Personally I would take the discount if it is still available.

If it is not - then I would appeal along the lines that H C Andersen suggests, and put them to the test to proving otherwise. 

Then hope that Greenwich make a hash of making the case that the distance was greater than 50cm, or fail to provide an evidence pack, at all, to the tribunal. (The latter isn't uncommon for Greenwich).

 


Re: Contravention 26 for being parked 50cm from edge of carriageway?
« Reply #26 on: »
You're not at tribunal, this only comes with a rejection of formal reps against s Notice to Owner..as it says in their reply.

So for now you either pay or wait until a NTO is served on the registered keeper.

So, who is the RK and are their DVLA details current?