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Code 31 Yellow Box BRENT Salusbury Rd/ Hartland Rd NW6

PCN info can be found HERE on the Brent portal
PCN number BT27063176
VRM LD25XAZ

PCN Front and Back and Last

Charge Certificate Front and Back

Reps 4 screenshots 1, 2, 3 and 4

Key Events Timeline

GSV HERE


I’m looking for some advice regarding a Brent Council yellow box PCN please.

Representations were submitted online on 18/11/2025 (the last permitted day). An auto acknowledgement email was received, but nothing further was ever sent from Brent via post nor email (no Notice of Rejection, nothing at all).

Out of the blue, a Charge Certificate has now arrived increasing the amount to £240 (received today)

This is a tad fishy (not getting mail from Brent) because something very similar happened recently to an elderly friend (posted his issue HERE) he also made representations and never received a response before a Charge Certificate was issued. Could 'this' be a thing - an attemp to prevent the public from raising pcn issues at adjudication?! ....Anyway....

With this current one,
Reps were made in time
No Notice of Rejection was received
No opportunity to appeal to the tribunal was given
Now a Charge Certificate has been served

The driver maintains that at the time of the alleged contravention the weather was extremely heavy rain (chucking it down- as per cctv footage) with poor visibility. He has since revisited the location and taken photographs a- Do the lines look OK to you guys?
First Pic, Second Pic, Third Pic - He couldn't see them in heavy rain


Please can you advise on the next steps?
(Do you think he has a good argument? is there any possibility he could be let off as have since uncovered a similar one I've just come across from the PAST) Looks like the pcn wording and the box is iffy.. d'oh!
« Last Edit: February 20, 2026, 10:21:33 pm by GirlFriday »

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« Last Edit: February 20, 2026, 10:24:30 pm by GirlFriday »

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There is a final stage of the enforcement process after the Charge Certificate stage, which is when the council register the debt at the Traffic Enforcement Centre, (a court with no courts or judges !). When they do this, they must send you an Order for Recovery in the post. This will also include the form for submitting a Statutory Declaration on which you can state that you submitted representations, but did not receive a rejection. TEC will then cancel the Charge Certificate and the Order for Recovery, and the matter reverts to where you left of, having submitted representations. The council are informed and must then pass the matter to the adjudicators for a decision. Do note that the PCN remains outstanding.

So, do not pay the Charge Certificate (CC) or it's game over. However, you must now become proactive. When the period for payment of the CC expires the council can then register the debt, but can be tardy in doing so. You should receive the OfR in the post, but even so, phone TEC about every 7-10 days to find out if the PCN has been registered. ONce it has you can submit your Statutory Declaration. This needs to be witnessed, signed and dated either for a small fee and a solicitors or free at your local county court. This may seem to be a bit daunting but it's totally routine, with TEC processing many thousands a year. You can even download the form (PE3)  from their website: -

Form PE3: Challenge an unpaid penalty charge notice.
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What is labelled the front of the PCN is actually the charge certificate. Please could you provide a link to the original PCN front page.

Having viewed the video footage, the box junction markings are barely visible in the rain from the high vantage point of the camera, so probably even harder to see at driver level. Definitely worth raising when you get this PCN reset. The video shows a clear box junction contravention however so any defence will need to be either on the poorly marked lines or in respect of PCN defects which we can check out once you provide a link.
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What is labelled the front of the PCN is actually the charge certificate. Please could you provide a link to the original PCN front page.

Having viewed the video footage, the box junction markings are barely visible in the rain from the high vantage point of the camera, so probably even harder to see at driver level. Definitely worth raising when you get this PCN reset. The video shows a clear box junction contravention however so any defence will need to be either on the poorly marked lines or in respect of PCN defects which we can check out once you provide a link.


My apologies MrChips- I have indeed put the CC on where the PCN should have been and unfortunately unable to edit the original post.

The correct document is linked HERE - This shows the first page of the PCN.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2026, 02:42:26 pm by GirlFriday »

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There is a final stage of the enforcement process after the Charge Certificate stage, which is when the council register the debt at the Traffic Enforcement Centre, (a court with no courts or judges !). When they do this, they must send you an Order for Recovery in the post. This will also include the form for submitting a Statutory Declaration on which you can state that you submitted representations, but did not receive a rejection. TEC will then cancel the Charge Certificate and the Order for Recovery, and the matter reverts to where you left of, having submitted representations. The council are informed and must then pass the matter to the adjudicators for a decision. Do note that the PCN remains outstanding.

So, do not pay the Charge Certificate (CC) or it's game over. However, you must now become proactive. When the period for payment of the CC expires the council can then register the debt, but can be tardy in doing so. You should receive the OfR in the post, but even so, phone TEC about every 7-10 days to find out if the PCN has been registered. ONce it has you can submit your Statutory Declaration. This needs to be witnessed, signed and dated either for a small fee and a solicitors or free at your local county court. This may seem to be a bit daunting but it's totally routine, with TEC processing many thousands a year. You can even download the form (PE3)  from their website: -

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/form-pe3-challenge-an-unpaid-penalty-charge-notice

Thank you so much for the guidance. Will definitely let him know to NOT pay.
The date 14days after the CC expires 05.03.25 so will make note of that. Seeing no postal correspondence has been received thus far, will ensure to stay alert and call the Traffic Enforcement Centre regularly thereafter. However, if No letter is received from Brent, is the printable form enough to take the next step (after the debt has been registered ofcourse)?

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Once the debt is registered at TEC, and you don't receive an OfR in reasonable time, you can download the form from TEC.  Indeed, as there is only a limited time from the OfR to respond, you need to be prepared to do this. I would download the form from TEC and get it ready for signing, dating, and witnessing.
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The debt has finally been registered (as confirmed by a quick telephone call this morning) and Form PE3 had been printed while ago so will secure an appointment for it to be witnessed at the relevant court.

Please can you confirm if the following is OK to write in the 'My reasons are' (give full reasons) box


I, xxxxx of xxxxx solemnly and sincerely declare that I made representations to Brent Council in respect of the above Penalty Charge Notice but did not receive a Notice of Rejection.

I became aware that the matter had progressed upon receipt of the Charge Certificate.

I make this declaration believing the contents to be true.

Is the above sufficient?

I made representations to Brent Council in respect of the above Penalty Charge Notice but did not receive a Notice of Rejection.
You don't need to write anything at all in the reasons box but if you insist then just the above is enough.
And tick the box that says the same.
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Evening all! (I'm back again with updates..and in need of further advice please)

The PCN has been reset by Brent (after receiving the required nod from the TEC) and Brent have since sent correspondence to the driver and it contains a copy of the NoR (which was never initially received). Had a look through it and noticed that Brent haven't even acknowledged the main point made in the original representations where the driver explicitly raised the issue of poor visibility due to the weather (heavy rain) and lighting conditions at 19:20hrs (dark - sunset was at 16:40hrs) . The NoR fails to address this point in any meaningful way and instead it looks as if they've relied on generic reasoning.

I noted from the cctv driver was sat in the YBJ for approx 13seconds (but hadn't blocked any traffic as no car approached from the left to join the main road). The fine is back at £80 if paid before the 14days .. and if appealing, to do that within 28days (last day Monday 26.05.26)

Reps are in the 1st [original post above, and the newer stuff below-

Reissue of Letter FRONT and BACK

Notice of Rejection FRONT and BACK and LAST

Appeal Papers unsure why there are two sets of the same thing..

Would really appreciate any hints/ tips on how to proceed.... and some general guidance to please!
Thanking in advance.
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I'm puzzled.At the stage you are at, (submitted reps but got no Notice of Rejection), the regulations state that the enforcing authority must pass the matter to the adjudicators for a decision.Is there anything about this in what you have received ?

See Regulation 23(7)&(8) in The Civil Enforcement of Road Traffic Contraventions (Approved Devices, Charging Guidelines and General Provisions) (England) Regulations 2022

Quote
(7) Where a witness statement is served including a statement under paragraph (2)(b), (c) or (d), the enforcement authority must refer the case to the adjudicator.

(8) Where a case is referred to the adjudicator—
(a)the adjudicator may give P and the enforcement authority (“the parties”) such directions as the adjudicator considers appropriate in the circumstances, and
(b)the parties must comply with those directions.

It would help if we could read what you've described as "Reissue of letter" because the link you have labelled "FRONT" doesn't work.
It might explain where you are getting new deadline dates from, which, incidentally, you got wrong for the original PCN so best we see the new letter.

@ Incandescent.
They appear to be following the standing 'directions', issued by the tribunal in 2016.