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Hi, I recieved a camera PCN from TfL on the 23/11/2025. I appealed, saying it was a clone plate, as I've had this issue for a while now. Today (28/02) I recieved a charge certificate, dated 18/02. I've shown a picture below. I googled, and it prompted me to check the history of the PCN on the TfL website. I've screenshotted that and shown it below as well.

My issue is, after submitting my initial appeal, I did not hear back from TfL at all. Not via email or post, and this is the first correspendance I have actually recieved from them.

Where do I stand on this matter?

Thank you for your help as usual.

EDIT: I of course did a bit of reading. The CC is in my wife's name. So does this mean she will have to make a statutory declaration?

And apparantley you have 14 days, not 28, before they take it further. Which is wholly unfair considering I recieved it 10 days late!


« Last Edit: February 28, 2026, 12:12:40 pm by ReflectoR »

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Is the address on the CC correct and the same as on your V5C for the vehicle ?

Is the address on the CC correct and the same as on your V5C for the vehicle ?

Hi. Yes it is. It's the same. The original PCN came to the same address aher.s well.

I've also checked my emails. No response there either.

Your wife will have to submit a Statutory Delaration that you submitted reps, but received no letter of rejection. She can only do this once they register the debt at the Traffic Enforcement Centre. They'll send an Order for Recovery when they do this, but you need to keep checking the PCN status on their website, or phone TEC, to make sure, because you've already had one document go astray, (their letter of rejection). The form for the SD can be downloaded from the TEC website, (Form PE3).

The thing is, I've received all my other post fine. These documents have not turned up at all, and even the charge certificate was 10 days late from the date shown. Not even the one where they supposedly asked for more evidence.

Is it worth calling up TfL? Or do I have to let it get to that stage?

I google it, and I found someone else had the exact same thing happen. Is this a normal occurrence with TfL?

What happens after an SD?

P.s. would it matter that my wife is going to submit the SD, but the original appeal was in my name?
« Last Edit: March 02, 2026, 02:46:07 pm by ReflectoR »

Your wife will have to submit a Statutory Delaration that you submitted reps, but received no letter of rejection. She can only do this once they register the debt at the Traffic Enforcement Centre. They'll send an Order for Recovery when they do this, but you need to keep checking the PCN status on their website, or phone TEC, to make sure, because you've already had one document go astray, (their letter of rejection). The form for the SD can be downloaded from the TEC website, (Form PE3).

I've checked the TfL site, the PCN remains in the same state it was last. Charge Certificate issued.

I will try calling TEC next. I don't know if I'm looking in the wrong place, but I couldn't find anything on their site.

Update:

Spoke to the TEC.

They have said there is nothing registered against that PCN number.

Best course of action is to wait and contact the TEC regularly to check for an update, and no need to contact TfL. According the agent on the TEC webchat.

Is this the same vehicle as in your Islington thread?


I of course did a bit of reading. The CC is in my wife's name. So does this mean she will have to make a statutory declaration?

I recieved a camera PCN from TfL on the 23/11/2025. I appealed,


But you could not appeal, only your wife could. I've no idea what was in their correspondence of 24 Dec. or the NoR, but if you did not refer to having your wife's permission to make reps on her behalf then they could reject on this basis alone.

To be honest, I cannot remember if I made it in my name or my wife's name.

I will see if there's a way to check my original appeal.

Hi everyone. Update on this.

We finally got the form from the TEC, filled in the statutory declaration, witnessed by a solicitor and sent back.

The TEC asked for the CC to be cancelled, on the 7th May TFL sent a fat envelope that was tracked and signed for.

In it they said something along the lines of they are deciding to pursue the PCN (which is fine). Except it's still at 160?

And they also mentioned having referred the case to the Tribunal.

So the question is do I pay now or just wait on the adjudicator?

The envelope had the evidence pack and a broken in half cd inside.


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In it they said something along the lines of they are deciding to pursue the PCN (which is fine). Except it's still at 160?

And they also mentioned having referred the case to the Tribunal.

Please post the letter (not the whole EP), only redacting yr name and address.

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So the question is do I pay now or just wait on the adjudicator?

Ring LT in the morning, explain the situation and follow their advice.

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The envelope had the evidence pack and a broken in half cd inside.

Ring TfL and ask them to replace the broken CF. Make sure they place the case on hold while sending out replacement.

What is the current status/history on TfL's site?

No point in paying now because the same £160 is in play at London Tribunals, with no extra costs payable, and if you win you pay nothing. A no-brainer, really.


 . . .

In it they said something along the lines of they are deciding to pursue the PCN (which is fine). Except it's still at 160?

And they also mentioned having referred the case to the Tribunal.

Please post the letter (not the whole EP), only redacting yr name and address.

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So the question is do I pay now or just wait on the adjudicator?

Ring LT in the morning, explain the situation and follow their advice.

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The envelope had the evidence pack and a broken in half cd inside.

Ring TfL and ask them to replace the broken CF. Make sure they place the case on hold while sending out replacement.

What is the current status/history on TfL's site?

Will call LT tomorrow. What should I ask them?

Will call TfL and ask for another CD.

Is it worth posting my original appeal? I said it was cloned plates on the basis I don't remember driving, neither did my wife. And I had been dealing with a cloned plate issues recently too. But looking again and the still photos they sent, of the back of the car, it does look like mine. Is it worth clarifying that?

Edit:

They also claim to have sent an email in response to my appeal, but I checked, including the spam, and I got nothing.

In the past, I always remember TfL sending the responses in the post.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2026, 05:46:53 pm by ReflectoR »

Status of PCN on TfL site:


IMO, TfL actions are subject to the Act and Practice Direction, in this case:

https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/sites/default/files/Practice%20Direction%2003-2024%20on%20behalf%20of%20ETA%2028%20November%202024%20%28PWS%29.pdf

OP, you are Ground 2. This means that TfL have options:


1. To refer the matter to the adjudicator at which point the Proper Officer 'will write' to your wife to get confirmation that reps were made. With this option the decision lies with LT whether to register TfL's referral as an appeal(para. 8), or

2. To refer the matter to the adjudicator AND re-serve the NOR, in which case no action is required of the adjudicator unless your wife fails to pay or appeal to the adjudicator within the period allowed (paras. 10 and 11).

TfL should act promptly in either case and I don't see that they would or may hold progression simply because the owner claims that a CD was broken. Under 1 above, the issue is procedural(were proper reps actually made) and if ultimately registered as an appeal(NB. not your wife's choice) then she would have plenty of time to be supplied with the CD. 2 above doesn't seem to apply because you've not suggested that a NOR has been re-served. But let's see the covering letter which came with the bundle pl. 

In short, IMO her next communication should be from LT and your wife doesn't need to do anything. However, if she doesn't have a copy of the reps, then ask for one from TfL, assuming there isn't a copy in the bundle.