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Hi all,

Hope you're well?

I have had a fine today with being in a bus lane, by 1 min, I'm aware there is probably nothing that could be done.

But just wanted to check if that was the case by those that may be in the know.

It would appear I was already in the lane at the first part then as I have moved to the second part I was then over the time.

See pictures to see details.

https://cdn.corenexis.com/view/22816881440

https://cdn.corenexis.com/view/34668531440

Thanks
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Please post all sides of the PCN only redacting your name and address.
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Considering the contravention only occurred 1 minute into the restricted times, I’d say you have a very strong case in this situation already, and can win possibly alone on De Minimis, as a car clock cannot be expected to be atomic and display the time exactly. The Act they use to enforce bus lanes is also very advantageous, as many appeals are won alone on Schedule 1, Paragraph 7(6) of the London Local Authorities Act 1996, as the authority does not attend which means an automatic win.

Currently, I believe an appeal solely based on De Mimimis will be good enough to the authority, the rest can be left for the Tribunal if they reject.

Let’s leave time for others to comment.
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Quote from: Bulop on September 01, 2026, 01:57:20 pm
Considering the contravention only occurred 1 minute into the restricted times, I’d say you have a very strong case in this situation already, and can win possibly alone on De Minimis, as a car clock cannot be expected to be atomic and display the time exactly. The Act they use to enforce bus lanes is also very advantageous, as many appeals are won alone on Schedule 1, Paragraph 7(6) of the London Local Authorities Act 1996, as the authority does not attend which means an automatic win.

Currently, I believe an appeal solely based on De Mimimis will be good enough to the authority, the rest can be left for the Tribunal if they reject.

Let’s leave time for others to comment.

Hi Bulop,

I appreciate your time and coming back to me with the above. Will await others as advised.

Thank you
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The clause in Schedule 1, Paragraph 7(6) of the London Local Authorities Act 1996 has won quite a few appeals now, and it's puzzling that the councils don't turn up. Of course you would be risking the full PCN penalty, and never know if they are going to turn up or not until the day of the adjudication.

I suggest you submit reps on the de minimis grounds as Bulop suggests. They will no doubt reject them, and then, if you want to take the gamble,  you can submit the same reps to the adjudicators at London Tribunals and also request attendance as the Act requires.
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Quote from: Incandescent on September 01, 2026, 02:42:42 pm
The clause in Schedule 1, Paragraph 7(6) of the London Local Authorities Act 1996 has won quite a few appeals now, and it's puzzling that the councils don't turn up. Of course you would be risking the full PCN penalty, and never know if they are going to turn up or not until the day of the adjudication.

I suggest you submit reps on the de minimis grounds as Bulop suggests. They will no doubt reject them, and then, if you want to take the gamble,  you can submit the same reps to the adjudicators at London Tribunals and also request attendance as the Act requires.

Thank you Incandescent. Appreciate the help. Knowing my luck they'd bloody well turn up, but like you say it's a gamble if it reaches that point.

Will appeal and see what they say.

Is it worth that money for a council to send someone to represent, who knows.
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Well it’s not a lawyer who has to turn up! It’s the camera operator who observed the offence, who is meant to be working, so even less likely for them to attend. Besides even without the attendance clause there is the fact they need to have a valid VCA certificate for the camera, but those are all for the Tribunal. De Minimis can again be used as a ground for Tribunal and some adjudicators have allowed solely based on it so there is a good chance of this appeal succeeding regardless of whether they attend.
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Great. Thank you
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I just saw the photo evidence, not the video.

This is another one of the rare cases, I've seen just another one recently, where the evidence provided by the authority (photo) actually shows upright signage passed and in place.
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I have looked at the video displaying the time and my actual routing, see what you think.

https://jumpshare.com/s/VstrKRfuuTitfTcpk8S9
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Definitely a de minimis case. It just shows their rapaciousness and venality, frankly. I would take them to London Tribunals.
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Thank you

With regards to the de minimis case.

Shall I just quote de minimis as is or construct a sentence in a certain manner?
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