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Bromley, code 73 parked without payment, Lennard Rd card park
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Hello everyone,

I left my car this Saturday at a council run car park and got fined for non-payment. However, the information panel says "Hours of operation: Monday to Friday". I did have a look on Ringo afterwards and it does ask for payment on Saturday, but this contradicts the information panel info.

Will it be straightforward to get the PCN cancelled ? After all, the council ought to display the correct information if they expect people to pay for parking on Saturday!

Thanks!

Here are the photos of the information panel and the PCN:


 

The evidence photos from the council (there are a few more but they're just photos of the car):
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Re: Bromley, code 73 parked without payment, Lennard Rd card park
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Sadly, straightforward cancellations are rarely straightforward to councils :(

That said, pleas post rest of PCN and a GSV link to location. Are there any more info boards in the car park?
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I have updated the main post with the full PCN photo and some photos from the council. Even the council photos show "Hours of operation: Monday to Friday"!

It was raining heavily when I returned to the car and found the PCN, so didn't spend much time outside, but I did not see any other sign with parking times info. I can go have a look in the next few days if needed though.

Thanks.
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Was there nothing on the back of the PCN?
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Sorry, added it to the main post.
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I wouldn't over-complicate this, just send a representation point out the hours of operation displayed in the car park and let's see what they say. It might just be that the CEO made a mistake, it does happen. One of our most illustrious members only got involved in this subject because he was given a PCN on a Saturday for a disabled bay that was only a disabled bay Monday to Friday, that mistake has cost the council tens of thousands over the years.
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It's really quite incredible that their own photo shows the car park charges apply Mon-Friday, and a PCN for a Saturday.  I wonder what wriggle-text they will send out to refute your reps !
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Quote from: cp8759 on October 23, 2023, 09:22:58 pm
I wouldn't over-complicate this, just send a representation point out the hours of operation displayed in the car park and let's see what they say. It might just be that the CEO made a mistake, it does happen. One of our most illustrious members only got involved in this subject because he was given a PCN on a Saturday for a disabled bay that was only a disabled bay Monday to Friday, that mistake has cost the council tens of thousands over the years.

Thank you, sent it and will let you know what comes out of it.
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The council's website gives this: Charges Mon-Sat.

 https://www.bromley.gov.uk/directory-record/501/lennard-road-beckenham-car-park

So, a difference.

If the photos of the sign are current then as said a straightforward challenge should get them to cancel and update their signs.
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Quick update: the PCN has been cancelled by the council. I have not received any email / letters but the website says "There is no outstanding charge for this Penalty Charge Notice."

Thank you all for you help.
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