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Re: Bromley Code 34J Being in a Bus Lane, Widmore Road
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2024, 02:46:30 pm »
Sorry for the late post:  DNCed.  Costs application to follow.
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Re: Bromley Code 34J Being in a Bus Lane, Widmore Road
« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2024, 09:32:15 am »
Sorry for the late post:  DNCed.  Costs application to follow.

Thanks for all of your help Hippocrates!
 


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Re: Bromley Code 34J Being in a Bus Lane, Widmore Road
« Reply #32 on: February 12, 2024, 12:44:30 pm »
Let's get on with the costs, Marve!
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

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If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

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Re: Bromley Code 34J Being in a Bus Lane, Widmore Road
« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2024, 09:05:52 am »
@cp8759 @Martyn21uk

Well, after not bothering to attend yesterday in another case, they have no comment to make re this application.  ;)
« Last Edit: April 03, 2024, 09:07:55 am by Hippocrates »
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESNTATION:
https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg86653/#msg86653


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

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J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

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Re: Bromley Code 34J Being in a Bus Lane, Widmore Road
« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2024, 12:23:29 pm »
Costs allowed. A walk in the park.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESNTATION:
https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg86653/#msg86653


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

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https://www.itv.com/news/london/2025-08-19

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Re: Bromley Code 34J Being in a Bus Lane, Widmore Road
« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2024, 11:25:02 am »
Grounds for the application

1. From the outset, Mr ***** raised the issue of camera certification and authorisation which was intransigently resisted by the council.
2. The council were fully aware that they, the council, did not possess a valid certificate until they applied for one on 9th August 2023. Yet, they persisted in relying solely upon their manufacturer’s certificate, the terms of which are abundantly clear.
3. The council only adduced as evidence the said manufacturer’s certificate and I say this is wholly unreasonable.
4. The evidence clearly shows that Bromley were one of two councils who were rather tardy in applying for their certificate which they knew post-dated the alleged contravention. Yet, they still resisted Mr ****’s valid issues raised, resulting in far too copious and unnecessary correspondence throughout the unnecessarily prolonged  statutory process.

In light of the above, I consider that the council’s conduct in its pursuit of this case to be wholly unreasonable. I enclose Mr ****'s Witness Statement vis a vis costs post the Notice of Rejection which I consider to be wholly fair and  reasonable under the circumstances.

I also said it was arguable that the provision of just the manufacturer's certificate, but not the council's certificate, was disingenuous. (Pronounced incorrectly as per my Celtic tendency!)  At least I am not as garrulous as I used to be.  ;)

Decision to follow.

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« Last Edit: April 04, 2024, 03:02:50 pm by Hippocrates »
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESNTATION:
https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg86653/#msg86653


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.itv.com/news/london/2025-08-19