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Bristol, Code 34J - Being in a bus lane, High Street (Junction Baldwin Strees)(Bus Lane 4)
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Hi!
Thank you for running this forum.
PCN image at bottom of post.
Location on Google maps: https://goo.gl/maps/HbwE55okGCDDdER39

I am not used to driving round Bristol, relied on my SatNav which took me down this road.
I am Dyslexic and Dyspraxic - meaning it is pretty tricky for me to focus on absolutely everything, including signage (which - looking at Google Maps, is there).
I just focussed on getting around safely and in all honesty... I didn't know what a bus gate was until getting this notice.

Thank you in advance :)

« Last Edit: August 05, 2023, 06:06:41 pm by cp8759 »
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Re: Bristol, Code 34J - Being in a bus lane, High Street (Junction Baldwin Strees)(Bus Lane 4)
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Please post the remaining pages of the PCN. Your best ground of appeal would be if the PCN still has an 0870 premium rate telephone number.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Bristol, Code 34J - Being in a bus lane, High Street (Junction Baldwin Strees)(Bus Lane 4)
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Hi,

Thank you for replying!
Further pages are here: https://imgur.com/a/Hl59yeL

You're right - Automated Payment Service number is 0870 number.
What does this mean?


Best wishes,
Georgie
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Re: Bristol, Code 34J - Being in a bus lane, High Street (Junction Baldwin Strees)(Bus Lane 4)
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It means that Bristol get a small 'bung' from the phone company for everybody paying via the telephone number, thus getting more than the penalty defined in law. It makes the PCN a nullity.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Bristol, Code 34J - Being in a bus lane, High Street (Junction Baldwin Strees)(Bus Lane 4)
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Absolutely wonderful.
I have sent the 2 PDFs off just now - will update with the outcome! Fingers crossed!

You are a star, thank you!
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Quote from: CG on August 07, 2023, 11:47:49 am
Absolutely wonderful.
I have sent the 2 PDFs off just now - will update with the outcome! Fingers crossed!
Just to set expectations, I would fully anticipate a rejection, and we'll have to appeal to the tribunal. That being said, Bristol are yet to contest a single tribunal case that I've been involved in.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Bristol, Code 34J - Being in a bus lane, High Street (Junction Baldwin Strees)(Bus Lane 4)
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Hi there,

I have finally heard back from Bristol City Council and as expected, my appeal has been declined.

Letter attached in imgur link.



Do I go to tribunal? If so, any advice?

Thank you again in advance!
« Last Edit: September 05, 2023, 12:42:18 am by cp8759 »
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Please post up remaining pages.
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As above, show us all the pages and please use the imgur BB sharing code to post the images on here.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Bristol, Code 34J - Being in a bus lane, High Street (Junction Baldwin Strees)(Bus Lane 4)
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Hi,
Not sure why Imjur didn't just post the link.
All 3 pages are in the imjur link.

https://imgur.com/a/NAugfgC

Many thanks!
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Re: Bristol, Code 34J - Being in a bus lane, High Street (Junction Baldwin Strees)(Bus Lane 4)
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Absolute, total failure to consider. CP'S draft doesn't even mention signage....
Press on.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2023, 06:47:21 pm by John U.K. »
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Quote from: John U.K. on September 05, 2023, 06:42:53 pm
Absolute, total failure to consider. CP'S draft doesn't even mention signage....
+1, I agree we've got them on a failure to consider.

Would you like me to represent you at the tribunal? If so, please do not file an appeal yourself.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Bristol, Code 34J - Being in a bus lane, High Street (Junction Baldwin Strees)(Bus Lane 4)
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Hello,
Thank you for your replies again.
I assume failure to consider references the fact they clearly did not read my original letter and sent me a standard response?

I would love for you to represent me if you are up for it?

Best wishes.
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I'll drop you a PM.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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