Author Topic: Cardiff County Council. Crystal Glen, Llanishen. (52m) failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicles  (Read 1262 times)

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Hi Mike,

In regards to your questions:

1) The PCN came via email to me. The first PCN was originally sent to Days as they are the owner of the vehicle who forwarded it to transport services who then forwarded it to my department manager who passed the email to me.

2) I do not believe it does but I've been waiting to hear back from my union to confirm.

3) I'm given this particular vehicle.

4) I keep the vehicle after shifts/overnight

5) yes I am waiting still to here back from them.
 
Thank you for your help. I know my direct manager is really unhappy with this as stated in the screenshot post above and just wants it paid rather than allow me to at least appeal the PCN.

I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

All the PCNs are sitting at £35 at the moment, which is frankly a bit odd.

I suggest you contact Days and ask them if they've appealed the PCNs on the hire company ground. If they have, ask if they've received a Notice of Acceptance or some other correspondence confirming liability has been transferred.

If Days have not taken any action yet, instruct them to challenge all three PCNs on the hire company ground, requesting that liability be transferred to the leasee.

Please report back urgently, whatever the situation is there will be follow-up actions for you.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

Ok, do I contact Days directly myself as all correspondence goes through our transport department to Days as they hire the vehicles?

What is the recommended plan of action with this?

Transport services are on strike currently and that who I would have to go through them as I have no contact with Days or the hiring of vehicles, I'm assigned a van and keep it overnight.

Thank you


Hi guys, this topic has gone dead but I still need the help. I today have received a fourth PCN. And over the past few days since my last message a number of messages have come through about the cameras but what is different between the original message informing us of the permit camera is the amount of information. I and a number of my workmates have been given further details about not passing a "Except for Access" zone which you cannot pass when originally we were of the understanding that you can't pass through the camera(?).

Anyway I need clarification on what I need to do.

1) I do not just accept liability and pay the fine? The PCN's are not in my name.

2) contact transport who will contact Days and have them do their own representations etc and forward it to the council then back to me with my name and address etc?


Thank you

You must do as you have been advised. YES you contact Days and get them to make representations to the council that they are a hire company the council are the hirer and new PCN's will be raised in there name then get authority from whomsoever in the council you need to to challenge the PCN's only whey they are in the name of the council and you have that permission can we help you

We cannot do it for you the council should not nor would not deal with anyone of us at this stage

If you continue to procrastinate the process will move along at its own pace and the costs will continue to increase

Ok, do I contact Days directly myself as all correspondence goes through our transport department to Days as they hire the vehicles?
We can't be wasting time pussyfooting around the issues, we know what needs doing and frankly I doubt anyone at Days or in Transport services has a clue.

You an an officer of Cardiff County Council, Days are your supplier, so contact them directly and instruct them to challenge *all* the PCNs on the hire company ground. Until liability is transferred, you're in danger of losing the right to appeal, so you want this to happen as soon as possible.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order