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South St RM1/Eastern Rd RM1 contravention code 52M Havering council rejected appeal
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Dear team,

I am writing regarding the PCN listed below, which was issued on 31/01/2026. I submitted an appeal for this notice as there were no signs on the evidence provided and it just shows my car stationary at some traffic light; however, the appeal was rejected. I received the rejection letter on 26/02/2026.

The notice now states that the amount payable is £160, and I no longer have the option to pay the discounted rate. I would be very grateful if you could advise whether there is any possibility of paying the discounted amount or if there are any further steps I can take to resolve this matter.

Please find the relevant letters and supporting evidence attached below for your reference.

Thank you for your time and assistance, and I look forward to your response.


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Please also post up:
all sides of the PCN, redacting only yr name & address,
a copy of your reps,
and
a GSV link to the location.
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Havering don't re-offer the discount. There is no legal obligation to do so. However, it means it is a total no-brainer to take them to London Tribunals, because the penalty remains the same and there are no additional costs. So make them do some work for their rapacity and venality. I would register an appeal straighaway. For appeal, just say "I rely on my formal representations"
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GSV link : https://maps.app.goo.gl/EBqUZ2Rivv33Lix59

Original PCN pictures https://postimg.cc/gallery/CxdzPmN

This is what I wrote on the appeal,

Dear Sir or Madam,

I am writing to challenge this PCN on the basis that the alleged contravention did not occur.

Having reviewed the CCTV footage, I cannot see any restriction signs visible in the video. I also did not see any clear signs or advance warning before approaching or entering this road.

Under Regulation 18 of the Local Authorities’ Traffic Orders (Procedure) (England and Wales) Regulations 1996, the authority has a duty to ensure that adequate information is provided to road users regarding the effect of any Traffic Management Order. In addition, any signage must comply with the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016.

If a restriction is not clearly and adequately conveyed by compliant signage, it cannot be lawfully enforced. In the absence of evidence demonstrating that the restriction was properly signed and visible at the material time, the contravention has not been established.

I therefore respectfully request that the PCN be cancelled.

Yours faithfully,



Also wanted to ask how do I appeal to the tribunals and if I do take it to tribunals is there any costs and anything else I have to do / drawbacks
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A lot of cases are won here. I'll dig one out.

Where were you going and what for?
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I won a review recently. But, I advise not citing past cases in case they learn. I have my own in June.

Please screenshot the website grounds and the caveat re making a false statement and I will be back later.

We have 3 live cases at this location.

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/pcn-32j-from-havering-council-yellow-box-station-road-branfill-road-rm14/msg110922/#msg110922

Happy to take this one one.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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« Last Edit: Yesterday at 04:48:30 pm by Hippocrates »
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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Quote from: stamfordman on March 16, 2026, 07:05:16 pm
A lot of cases are won here. I'll dig one out.

Where were you going and what for?

@stamfordman

2250041601  This one you published in another thread.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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How does appealing work how do I appeal and do I have to write grounds for appeal or anything? 
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Also what do I put on explain why you are appealing and what evidence should I upload?
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I will PM you later this evening.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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