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Box junction on Ilford Lane
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Dear All,

I have received a PCN for stopping on a box junction (not completely in the box).

I cannot fully remember what happened that day but there was a car parked on the left and an upcoming car coming towards me and I couldn’t fully turn into the road.

Could I challenge this?

Im unable to load the video as the file is too big.

Any advice would be appreciated.

TIA

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« Last Edit: July 21, 2025, 07:34:13 pm by Ayesha »
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Post the PCN redacting only name and address and also post the PCN number and car VRM.
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Hi Ayesha - I think you posted this case on the Forum's Facebook page? The video clearly shows you turn left into the side road and wait there while an oncoming vehicle passes through as there isn't enough space for two vehicles to pass. That is not a contravention so you should be able to beat the PCN.

I would link back to the Facebook page which had the video but it has disappeared - did you delete it?
« Last Edit: July 21, 2025, 09:46:39 pm by MrChips »
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I looked at this on Facebook, and it's totally clear it is a money-grubbing PCN because the statute is that the vehicle has to stop due to the presence of stationary vehicles. This was pointed out in the thread. The OP stopped because a vehicle was coming towards her in the wrong lane due, (I think), to parked cars further up the street. As I recall, I recommended creating a thread on here, and here it is !
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Hi Mr Chips,

The video is still on Facebook.

Incandescent-thank you.

As I mentioned on my Facebook post, I cannot remember why I was waiting by the box but I was thinking I had enough space to wait behind the green stationary car but there must have been some reason for me to do what I did!
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Can you provide a link to the Facebook thread please - I simply can't see it.
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In fact, I can no longer find the post.

I’m not sure why Admin deleted it.

I have re-posted the video.

Here is the link

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/19mWZmDadK/?
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Here is the alleged parking contravention

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The video stops at the point when a car emerges from the street, and it seems pretty obvious you stopped to let this car come forward, before being able to proceed down that street. There was certainly no contravention whatsoever shown on the video. This has to be a close match to a slam-dunk win at London Tribunals, surely ?
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Although they could argue I could have moved away and stayed behind the green car
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Quote from: Ayesha on July 21, 2025, 11:55:45 pm
Although they could argue I could have moved away and stayed behind the green car
They can argue all they like, the video is the sole evidence and doesn't show a contravention.
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Quote from: Ayesha on July 21, 2025, 11:55:45 pm
Although they could argue I could have moved away and stayed behind the green car

If they argue that, it's an automatic win for you because the offence involves being forced to stop in the yellow box. Having the option to move out means no offence could have occurred.
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I’m not sure how to word the appeal. Do you have a one/two liner o could use?

TIA

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Can you confirm the date of the PCN and that it's addressed to you (as opposed to a family member, or lease company for example)?  I'll happily draft something for you.
« Last Edit: July 22, 2025, 08:10:47 am by MrChips »
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Yes, it was.

The date of the PCN is the 17th July.

Thank you.

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