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Bexley, code 62 parked with one or more wheels on or over a footpath
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PCN over parking on footpath in Bexley.
Any chance this may slip at the adjudicator stage?













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Re: Bexley, code 62 parked with one or more wheels on or over a footpath
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Where exactly were you on Google Maps. There is marked footway parking in that road but it looks like you were well before the sign.

That doesn't mean there isn't a resolution exemption for the whole road though. 
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Are there any further advice on this?
Should I wait for NTK regardless and hope to get the fee reduced back to £70 in the worst case, or not worth wasting time?

I think this should be paid on Wednesday to qualify as an early payment..

Previously @Hippocrates helped to cancel the PCN due to reasons for appeal not sufficient on the website however they corrected it. I don't know if there would be any other grounds for appeal.
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The 14-day period for making a risk-free* challenge and payment of the discount ends today, 22 Apr(14 days beginning on 9th, not from 9th).

I'd make simple reps that you understood that parking with 2 wheels on the footway was allowed in the road as you have seen cars doing this on a regular basis. If you are wrong then you apologise and would ask the authority to exercise discretion and cancel as this is your first** PCN.


*- you haven't posted the back of the PCN, so I'm assuming that this provision - which is commonplace- is included.

**- if true.

Are you the registered keeper with current DVLA
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Re: Bexley, code 62 parked with one or more wheels on or over a footpath
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You could include:

I believe the contravention may not in case have occurred as you have probably passed a resolution disapplying the footway parking ban on Hall Place Crescent given the presence of such parking elsewhere in the road.

Please confirm the existence of this resolution and its extent in considering my challenge.
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Re: Bexley, code 62 parked with one or more wheels on or over a footpath
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Thanks for the heads up, I will appeal today.

Back of PCN:




Quote from: H C Andersen on April 22, 2025, 10:12:27 am
The 14-day period for making a risk-free* challenge and payment of the discount ends today, 22 Apr(14 days beginning on 9th, not from 9th).

I'd make simple reps that you understood that parking with 2 wheels on the footway was allowed in the road as you have seen cars doing this on a regular basis. If you are wrong then you apologise and would ask the authority to exercise discretion and cancel as this is your first** PCN.


*- you haven't posted the back of the PCN, so I'm assuming that this provision - which is commonplace- is included.

**- if true.

Are you the registered keeper with current DVLA
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Based on @cp8759's documents posted on a similar subject about Bexley council, it doesn't look like this road was applied a resolution, happy to be corrected though if I missed anything.

Quote from: stamfordman on April 22, 2025, 10:18:42 am
You could include:

I believe the contravention may not in case have occurred as you have probably passed a resolution disapplying the footway parking ban on Hall Place Crescent given the presence of such parking elsewhere in the road.

Please confirm the existence of this resolution and its extent in considering my challenge.
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It is interesting that there is no mention of Hall Pl Crescent in the documents, although this road has marked bays half on the footway where vehicles can park and must be exempt from footway parking restrictions, mustn't it?

Quote from: cesur on April 22, 2025, 11:16:52 am
Based on @cp8759's documents posted on a similar subject about Bexley council, it doesn't look like this road was applied a resolution, happy to be corrected though if I missed anything.

Quote from: stamfordman on April 22, 2025, 10:18:42 am
You could include:

I believe the contravention may not in case have occurred as you have probably passed a resolution disapplying the footway parking ban on Hall Place Crescent given the presence of such parking elsewhere in the road.

Please confirm the existence of this resolution and its extent in considering my challenge.
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E mail received. The website is now fixed so that angle is not possible.
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

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Draft representation:

Dear London Borough of Bexley,

Footway parking is allowed on Hall Place Crescent, there are numerous parking bays painted partly on the footpath and and no signs indicate that footway parking is permitted only within those bays. In the circumstances I contend that the contravention did not occur because there must be a footway parking resolution allowing footway parking on this road, if you believe I have contravened the terms of that resolution then I ask that you supply a copy.

Yours faithfully,

Take a screenshot of the confirmation page. You cannot rely on some other footway parking resolution for some other location, as there is likely a different one for this location, but it's still up to the council to produce it.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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I have submitted this.
Screenshot taken.

Thanks @cp8759.

Quote from: cp8759 on April 22, 2025, 11:08:13 pm
Draft representation:

Dear London Borough of Bexley,

Footway parking is allowed on Hall Place Crescent, there are numerous parking bays painted partly on the footpath and and no signs indicate that footway parking is permitted only within those bays. In the circumstances I contend that the contravention did not occur because there must be a footway parking resolution allowing footway parking on this road, if you believe I have contravened the terms of that resolution then I ask that you supply a copy.

Yours faithfully,

Take a screenshot of the confirmation page. You cannot rely on some other footway parking resolution for some other location, as there is likely a different one for this location, but it's still up to the council to produce it.
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Notice of Rejection. Does anyone have any thoughts on a potential win?


« Last Edit: May 30, 2025, 12:27:46 pm by cesur »
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Re: Bexley, code 62 parked with one or more wheels on or over a footpath
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@cesur well we don't know the area, so you're in a better position than us to confirm or deny the presence of signage. If there are no signs that state "in marked bays" then the requirement does not exist, see these cases:

Lorna Jennifer Whittick v London Borough of Merton (2160383659, 10 October 2016)
Aliecee Cummings v London Borough of Lewisham (219023696A, 18 July 2019)
Yasmin Robinson v London Borough of Redbridge (221007511A, 29 March 2021)
Mohammed Islam v London Borough of Barking and Dagenham (2200513505, 25 March 2021)

The council won't appreciate that, but that's because they're stupid.

Assuming there are no such signs, just wait for the notice to owner.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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I said there was marked bays and they do have signs but this view is from 2018.

I thought the only hope here is a resolution.

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