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Hello everyone,

Hope you all enjoyed your break.

I'm seeking your guidance on whether there's an opportunity to appeal this Parking Charge Notice (PCN).

While visiting a family member, I was advised to park on Academy Way, directly in front of the car park entrance. They mentioned that this area, managed by Dagenham Council, isn't enforced, due to the 2 signs showing the timings of the restricted parking zone. Consequently, it's common to see cars parked on pavements within this part of land outside the restricted hour. However, beyond the 'zone ends' signs, enforcement is active as the area is overseen by a private company. This distinction is why visitors tend to park in the Barking and Dagenham section. For the past year, I, along with other cars, have been parking here without issue. Surprisingly, I've just received a parking ticket citing contravention code 62.

I have had a go at drafting an appeal below.

Do I have an opportunity to appeal?

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Link to PCN Notice:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JH2Xuyaly-mUNbDM0j3IdkHcKGE2dD8Z/view?usp=drivesdk

Location Street view link:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/oUNU97rqzdThysjL9

Draft Representation:

Dear Sir/Madam,

RE: Formal Representation Against PCN

I am writing to formally contest the Penalty Charge Notice referenced above, issued on 19/12/23 for contravention code 62, which denotes parking with one or more wheels on or over a footpath or any part of a road other than a carriageway.
My challenge is based on the following points:

1. Clarity of Signage and Parking Zone: the signage within the area where I was parked clearly indicated a "Restricted Parking Zone Mon-Fri 8 am to 6:30 pm". My vehicle was stationed in the land between these two signs, where the indications were explicit that enforcement is not applicable outside these hours. Parking within the confines of this clear signage, during a period that falls outside of the enforcement hours, I had every reason to believe that my actions were in compliance with the parking regulations set by the local authority.

2. Established Pattern of Non-enforcement: I have regularly parked in this area for a number of years without receiving a PCN, leading to a legitimate expectation that parking as I have done would not result in enforcement action. The sudden issuance of a PCN, without any apparent change in enforcement policy or notification thereof, represents a departure from the established pattern of non-enforcement that the council has previously demonstrated.

3. Indistinct Footpath: The area in question does not resemble a conventional footpath, and there is no clear indication that parking is prohibited, which misleads motorists regarding the legality of parking in that location. Further, the section of the carriageway where my vehicle was parked was constructed with the same materials and using the same methodology as the carriageway, lacking the paving slabs that are typically expected in a footway. This uniformity in construction within the restricted zone does not provide the clear visual differentiation that is required for drivers to discern the beginning of a footpath. Furthermore, it is noteworthy that outside the restricted parking zone, the construction material and methodology of the footpath changes, aligning with the typical build-up of a footway. This stark contrast in construction leads to a reasonable expectation that the zone where I was parked did not constitute a footpath and was, therefore, permissible for parking.

Given these points, and in light of the longstanding practice of non-enforcement, I respectfully request that the PCN be reconsidered and subsequently cancelled.

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https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2022/9780348232752/part/2/chapter/1

Information to be included in regulation 9 penalty charge notices and enforcement notices
Information about right to make representations or appeal to be included in regulation 9 penalty charge notices and enforcement notices
3.—(1) A regulation 9 penalty charge notice must include the following information—

(a)that a person on whom a notice to owner is served may, in accordance with these Regulations, make representations to the enforcement authority against the penalty charge and, if those representations are rejected, appeal to an adjudicator;
(b)that if, before a notice to owner is served, representations against the penalty charge are received at such address as may be specified in the notice for the purpose those representations will be considered by the enforcement authority;
(c)that if a notice to owner is served despite the representations mentioned in sub-paragraph (b), representations against the penalty charge must be made to the enforcement authority in the form and manner and at the time specified in the notice to owner.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

How a line of bricks at the same level can denote where a footway is and where the carriageway is astonishes me. I mean it's not even a different colour for Heavens sake !  Of course looking at GSV, you can see where they're coming from as the line of bricks carries on the line of the kerbstones from the actual footway in the other part of the street and carries on to the next traditional footway: -

https://maps.app.goo.gl/KxyGg1jDoDEDFeXUA

interestingly, its the only part of Academy way where there is no clear kerbstone or street marking such as the double yellow line and the vertical double yellow loading sings delineating the carriageway and footway. @Hippocrates - shall I add the the regulation 9 PCN information to the appeal?

thanks

I've updated the response to include regulation 9, I'll get this sent off tonight.

thanks for all your help.

I'll keep you all updated.



Draft Representation:
Dear Sir/Madam,

RE: Formal Representation Against PCN
I am writing to formally contest the Penalty Charge Notice referenced above, issued on 19/12/23 for contravention code 62, which denotes parking with one or more wheels on or over a footpath or any part of a road other than a carriageway.
My challenge is based on the following points:

1.   Clarity of Signage and Parking Zone: the signage within the area where I was parked clearly indicated a "Restricted Parking Zone Mon-Fri 8 am to 6:30 pm". My vehicle was stationed in the land between these two signs, where the indications were explicit that enforcement is not applicable outside these hours. Parking within the confines of this clear signage, during a period that falls outside of the enforcement hours, I had every reason to believe that my actions were in compliance with the parking regulations set by the local authority.

2.   Established Pattern of Non-enforcement: I have regularly parked in this area for a number of years without receiving a PCN, leading to a legitimate expectation that parking as I have done would not result in enforcement action. The sudden issuance of a PCN, without any apparent change in enforcement policy or notification thereof, represents a departure from the established pattern of non-enforcement that the council has previously demonstrated.

3.   Indistinct Footpath: The area in question does not resemble a conventional footpath, and there is no clear indication that parking is prohibited, which misleads motorists regarding the legality of parking in that location. Further, the section of the carriageway where my vehicle was parked was constructed with the same materials and using the same methodology as the carriageway, lacking the paving slabs that are typically expected in a footway. This uniformity in construction within the restricted zone does not provide the clear visual differentiation that is required for drivers to discern the beginning of a footpath. Furthermore, it is noteworthy that outside the restricted parking zone, the construction material and methodology of the footpath changes, aligning with the typical build-up of a footway. This stark contrast in construction leads to a reasonable expectation that the zone where I was parked did not constitute a footpath and was, therefore, permissible for parking.

4.   Omission of Key Information as per Regulation 9 (penalty charge notices and enforcement notices): The PCN does not fully comply with the requirements outlined in Regulation 9 of The Civil Enforcement of Parking Contraventions (England) Representations and Appeals Regulations 2007. It fails to explicitly include information that if a Notice to Owner is served following initial representations, any further representations must adhere to the specific requirements set out in the Notice to Owner, including the form, manner, and timeline for response. This lack of comprehensive information in the PCN about the process for contesting the charge at all stages, particularly post-issuance of a Notice to Owner, is a notable procedural deficiency. It hinders my ability to fully understand and exercise my rights in the appeal process, as required by the regulation.

Given these points, including the procedural deficiency due to the omission of key information as per Regulation 9 of The Civil Enforcement of Road Traffic Contraventions (Representations and Appeals) (England) Regulations 2022, and in light of the longstanding practice of non-enforcement in the area, I respectfully request that the PCN be reconsidered and subsequently cancelled.

IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Morning All,

hope you're well,

Just received my rejection letter from Barking and Dagenham for my "wheels on the footpath" PCN. They've not addressed all the points in my response and have stated that the "other points" do not justify a cancellation.

I've attached their response.

what do you think, is there a strong enough case to challenge the PCN?

thanks for all your help.



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Hi All,

any thoughts? is it worth appealing, still got some time before the discounted rate expires.

thanks

Wait for the Notice to Owner. Their reply is bolleaux, in part.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Definitely wait for the notice to owner, but we want to be careful with this one: adjudicators have previously held that lines of bricks, even of the same colour, are enough to denote a footpath.

Where exactly is the area enforced by a private company, can you give us a google street view link please?
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

Sorry for the late reply on this; I just realised that the "Notify me of replies" option was turned off!

Interestingly, the land either side of the area being enforced by Barking and Dagenham, at one point, was being managed by two separate parking companies. Looking at the signage from Google Street View, it seems as though it's the same company now. I can double-check when I'm next there.

1. https://maps.app.goo.gl/E3gTDBBdwsAKEh847 (covering the West) from the council land

2. https://maps.app.goo.gl/Nd9iotzf9qR59dYj6 (covering the East) from

Also i've just received the notice to Owner from B&D (attached) - from reading this, its just a representation to D&B and not at tribunal. but not sure why they are not offering the £65 discount?




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Where are the council's photos?

I've just seen them, your car is parked with DYL clearly visible ahead and on your left. I do not think you should risk the discount on your argument about you thinking you were parked on the carriageway i.e. the lack of distinction between the carriageway and footway(it's not a footpath).

IMO, as regards your beliefs about enforcement, this is a no-hoper, your lack of knowledge doesn't prevent the council from issuing PCNs. Similarly your expectation that as you claim you'd parked there previously without issue then you had a legitimate expectation.

There are two reasons for abandoning the above: firstly, they're not winning points and secondly, and IMO more important, you are shielding the key argument.

You only need to lead with one point which is procedural impropriety which relates to the wording of the PCN. 

« Last Edit: March 08, 2024, 08:16:19 pm by H C Andersen »

Thanks for the advise, i will re-write the appeal focusing only on the procedural deficiency. I'll put a draft response up later on today.

thanks

hi All,

is the below good to go?

thanks

Dear Sirs,

I am appealing against the Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) issued on 19/12/23 for contravention code 62, on grounds of procedural impropriety concerning Regulation 9 of The Civil Enforcement of Parking Contraventions (England) Representations and Appeals Regulations 2007.

The PCN does not fully comply with the requirements outlined in Regulation 9 of The Civil Enforcement of Parking Contraventions (England) Representations and Appeals Regulations 2007. It fails to explicitly include information that if a Notice to Owner is served following initial representations, any further representations must adhere to the specific requirements set out in the Notice to Owner, including the form, manner, and timeline for response. This lack of comprehensive information in the PCN about the process for contesting the charge at all stages, particularly post-issuance of a Notice to Owner, is a notable procedural deficiency. This omission compromises my ability to fully comprehend and exercise my appeal rights as mandated by regulation, thereby undermining procedural fairness and my entitlement to contest the charge.

Given the importance of adherence to procedural requirements, I respectfully request the cancellation of this PCN.

Thank you for considering my appeal.

Sincerely,

Hi All,

any thoughts on the response? or should I stick to the original?

thanks