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Hello,

PCN was given whilst driver still in the car, they didnt realise CEO was taking photos until they approached to put it on the vehicle.
I have attached PCN and location where car was parked. Unable to view any evidence taken of the car.

Appreciate any help or advice.

Car positioned on the X mark:



PCN:



Google street view:

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53.490165,-2.074739 | Instant Street View
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Re: PCN- restricted street- Ashton college
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The double-yellow lines include the whole road up to the property line, so if the driver thought that by parking on the pavement he avoided the double-yellow lines, he is wrong. We regularly see threads on this theme.
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They were in the car picking someone up, did not leave the car parked there

Are there any grounds to appeal on based on the PCN?

Thank you
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We need the VRM and PCN number in order to access the council's photos, assuming these are placed online.

The PCN seems compliant.
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Quote from: EA_RAL on June 06, 2026, 02:03:09 am

They were in the car picking someone up, did not leave the car parked there

Are there any grounds to appeal on based on the PCN?

Thank you
Boarding/alighting passengers is an exemption to the DYLs, but must be done as quickly as possible.
I'm surprised the driver didn't speak to the CEO, or maybe he did. If so please tell us. Also please tell us who was being picked up in general terms, i.e normal person, disabled, very old, children. etc
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Quote from: tincombe on June 06, 2026, 08:13:53 am
We need the VRM and PCN number in order to access the council's photos, assuming these are placed online.

The PCN seems compliant.

PCN: TM05595257
VRN:MM23 UYB

Tried to have a look online but cant seem to access anywhere
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Quote from: Incandescent on June 06, 2026, 12:19:28 pm
Quote from: EA_RAL on June 06, 2026, 02:03:09 am

They were in the car picking someone up, did not leave the car parked there

Are there any grounds to appeal on based on the PCN?

Thank you
Boarding/alighting passengers is an exemption to the DYLs, but must be done as quickly as possible.
I'm surprised the driver didn't speak to the CEO, or maybe he did. If so please tell us. Also please tell us who was being picked up in general terms, i.e normal person, disabled, very old, children. etc

Picking someone from college. They did speak to the CEO but he said he'd already issued the ticket and refused to engage. Is the 2 minutes observed time something we can contest on?
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Quote from: EA_RAL on June 06, 2026, 11:06:44 pm
Quote from: Incandescent on June 06, 2026, 12:19:28 pm
Quote from: EA_RAL on June 06, 2026, 02:03:09 am

They were in the car picking someone up, did not leave the car parked there

Are there any grounds to appeal on based on the PCN?

Thank you
Boarding/alighting passengers is an exemption to the DYLs, but must be done as quickly as possible.
I'm surprised the driver didn't speak to the CEO, or maybe he did. If so please tell us. Also please tell us who was being picked up in general terms, i.e normal person, disabled, very old, children. etc

Picking someone from college. They did speak to the CEO but he said he'd already issued the ticket and refused to engage. Is the 2 minutes observed time something we can contest on?
No, not really, as the car was by double-yellow lines, but you could submit reps on the basis that you were boarding a passenger, but you'd need to explain why the passenger was not waiting at the roadside, and you had to wait for them. Boarding is a legal exemption not just custom and practice.
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Thanks for the VRN etc. From what I can see, personal details have to be entered as part of the challenge process before evidence can be viewed.

Can't see a win here IMO.

The driver was collecting a student from college. 'Boarding' as a statutory defence is IMO very, very narrow; even taxi drivers have to 'drive round the block' if a passenger is not waiting and cannot simply wait for them to turn up.

But you* might as well submit a challenge within the 14-day period, there might be a procedural impropriety waiting in the wings.

* who's who here? You refer to the driver in the third person, but ultimately liability lies with the registered keeper. Who is the RK and is the vehicle leased/hired etc?
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I went on the online portal and added all personal details and still no evidence available- is it worth asking them to provide me with photos they took?

Passenger boarded within 1 min of this happening, overall waiting time was less than 5 mins.

RK is the driver and car is not leased, was not planning to disclose the driver in any appeals
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RK is the driver and car is not leased, was not planning to disclose the driver in any appeals.

It's owner(RK) liability and therefore as the driver was the RK, the driver is known. In any event, this can be useful at adjudication because the appellant would therefore have first-hand knowledge.

But in truth, if you were there 5 minutes then I can't see a defence against the contravention.

No photos may just be a timing issue regarding uploading and the intervening weekend.
« Last Edit: Yesterday at 10:59:48 pm by tincombe »
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Looks like you've been unlucky - it happens.

The council must consider discretion if you can draft something plausible but is unlikely to give way with no good reason.
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Thanks all for your advice
Probably best to pay up :'(
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Not at this stage. It's always worthwhile making reps within the 14-day period which ends on 18 June.
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Quote from: tincombe on Today at 02:35:35 pm
Not at this stage. It's always worthwhile making reps within the 14-day period which ends on 18 June.

Okay, will do that, Thank you
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